I am not the only one with "mixed" feelings regarding CBB

a13xhp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMPgnRdAWCc 
Same feelings here... Constant crashes, bugs, VST problems, an uncertain business model (Where is the "roadmap"?). I really used to like SONAR's UI but currently I can't work with this program and I don't like the "if it's free you can't complain" way of thinking of some nor do I want buggy and meaningless "monthly updates" anymore.
Am I the only one? I am not trying to offend people, I am making a constructive criticism to Bandlab Team.

What is your computer setup like and what VSTs are you using with issues?
 
I don't have crashes or experience bugs (outside of clearly pushing VSTs beyond what my computer can handle.  Only VST problems I've had were with Waves...and I'm positive it was a Waves problem, not Cakewalk.  Other DAWs don't provide a roadmap.  
 
The GUI hasn't changed (thankfully) in about 8 years...so it sounds like a personal problem.  
 
What updates do you need to make music?  As long as the current program runs, I seem to be able to make quality productions with it.  
 
Where is the "constructive" part of your criticism?  
 

I love CBB. To me it's Sonar Platinum ++.
 
Works a treat in my little rumpus room.

No problems, crashes or mixed feelings here.
 
I would have happily kept using SONAR as-is forever. It was stable and did everything I needed it to do. Having it continue to be supported was just a bonus. Totally agree with bitman's assessment - Cakewalk is SPlat++.
 
Perhaps you could elaborate on your UI issues. I don't really see much difference between Cakewalk and SONAR in terms of the UI. 
 
 

Anderton
 
You might consider using a DAW you like as opposed to one you don't; there are plenty of choices.

 
I agree - this is a great time to be a DAW user.

I reverted to an earlier version of Platinum because of a bug that was introduced at some point in its final year. When I briefly checked out CbB it still appeared to have the same bug, so I'm not ready to start using it yet. If I have any spare time I'll check it out again and report the bug, but for now I'll continue with Platinum 22.11.0.111.

Every DAW has its fans and detractors. For user with insurmountable problems, there's another whose system is working flawlessly. There is no such thing as a DAW - nay, any software - that has 100% satisfied customer base.
 
That said, Cakewalk is working as reliable for me as SONAR Platinum did. Is it perfect? No. But the issues are nothing I can't work around, and without breaking a sweat.
 
I tried Reaper and it would have worked out fine, but really, with Cakewalk coming back - and for free - I'd have to be stupid to stop using it on a matter of *principle* or something.

Geez judging by the reactions to what I said in my previous post , I may have come off like an old curmudgeon who walked into a serious thread and started yelling at The Cakewalk Clouds 
 
In the past I have seen a number of videos by the u tube poster (Ch... Studio )I have gotten something out of those videos back then  ...just not this one .
 
I wish my life and music was as simple as only having  mixed feelings about " CBB "
After giving my pooch an hour long walk in the secluded woods of my area while coaxing my two working brain cells to enter into a working meaningful dialog , I have come to the conclusion that I have Mixed Feelings about everything in my Life . And I mean EVERYTHING 
It doesn't matter what the topic is , be it , Music , The Bizz, DAW's , Wimminz , Guitars , Amps, The Social Issues of The Day,  Money , Property , Prestige , What Ever  .....just to mention a few topics ..
If there is any aspect of life that can bring me pain , joy or happiness  I have Mixed Feelings about it ..
 
"CBB" seems to be one of the smoothest working things in my life at this point so I'm gonna roll with it
Warts and All
 
I sincerely thank the OP for starting this thread ...with out it I may not of had my Mixed Feelings Epiphany 
 
Kenny
 
 

Actually, Scott the guy that did the video is fairly well known.

Okay. Spam is only created by people who are unknown. 😀

Regardless, it just come across as spam, even when it isn't.

Agreed.

Cakewalk used to give us a heads up of what was coming in the next release - i.e. the stuff they've almost finished, maybe that's what they're alluding to?
 
Publishing a long term roadmap however, might be unwise as you're letting your competition know what's coming, giving them the chance to implement those features first.
 
Roadmaps are fine for enterprise software and open source projects, but for a DAW, not so much.
 
From a personal point of view I'd love to know what's coming up, but there's always the danger that some people move DAW simply because their #1 wishlist feature isn't on the roadmap. I doubt if BandLab want to take that risk.
 

msmcleod

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kennywtelejazz
Sorry no sale as far as the video goes .Simply way too annoying to have to sit through "your conversation" with the game grabbing all the screen time .

Kenny

I am beginning to think this entire OP post was a sham. I clicked on the YouTube link and I am just pissed that I did.

WTF, Video game in the background?

What a load of crap.

 
Actually, Scott the guy that did the video is fairly well known. He's done a few Sonar tutorials on YouTube, and supplied the "Withered Moment" demo that shipped with Sonar Platinum. So he's obviously had ties to Cakewalk Inc in the past.
 
I share his frustration with the Clip Editing issues as they've been there for a while now, and several people have reported issues, myself included.
 
I do think however the video is a bit of an over-reaction, not to mention harsh on BandLab seeing as they're only really at the beginning of the journey with CbB, and a fair few bugs have been fixed.
 
It's a bit early to comment on 2018.08.32, but 2018.07 has been absolutely rock solid for me. 
 
Long may it continue!

Perfectly said, Mark! It is almost what I think about CbB and this thread.
 
I like your post, because it is more neutral (to what the OP said) than some of these woohoo style responses. And frankly, I have also some kind of "mixed feelings" about CbB, but I agree with you that we have to be a little patient.
 
Marc

I know you don't want to hear this but go try and find another free DAW (Audacity, Bitwig, what ever) like CbB and show me the same roadmap laid out for its users.

bitflipper
No problems, crashes or mixed feelings here.
 
I would have happily kept using SONAR as-is forever. It was stable and did everything I needed it to do. Having it continue to be supported was just a bonus. Totally agree with bitman's assessment - Cakewalk is SPlat++.
 
Perhaps you could elaborate on your UI issues. I don't really see much difference between Cakewalk and SONAR in terms of the UI. 
 
 

I think it has been a misunderstanding (probably due to my weird english ahaha). I was trying to say that I really liked the SONAR PLATINUM UI design as I love the CBB UI since it is the same, but I can't work with only a beautiful UI. I had been experimenting crashes, tons of audio dropouts and some Waves plugins extrangely dissappearing (the vst3 version of Waves Grand Rhapsody Piano for example). Also, as Scott, I think that Audiosnap palette is broken and some editing tools seems outdated compared to things like REAPER. I would like to see substantial changes in that direction instead of tiny "monthly updates" with cosmetic features and non deep bug fixes. In the past, I could understand the existance of monthly updates because there was a monthly subscription model but today there is no need on keep going that way. I am grateful to Bandlab for giving this amazing DAW for free and for removing all the "bloatware" but I don't want to be in an eternal "insiders" program with this monthly updates system. Honestly I hate it.
P.D.: For example, take a look on the latest 2018.08 update. Meng said that it has been delayed because they want to introduce a new feature but it hasn't been ready and the developers must remove it in order to launch this 2018.08 release. A release that basically add the option to remove the insignificant "new feature" of 2017.07 and, in addition, a new one that needed a hotfix few days later because it was completely broken. All of that make me laugh and I just don't understand why not to wait and test the things properly, releasing substantial updates only when they are ready.