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I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
I can't remember if there is an option for this or if I'm just remembering this behavior from my old system. Basically I'd like to set things so the project views (Clips Pane, PRV, etc...) move along with the Now Time marker instead of jumping a page ahead once it reaches the end of the screen. It seems I have forgotten a lot of things in my down time. :-/ Thanks in advance.
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Beepster
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/01 12:31:06
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Okay, just poking around the manual and some of my notes and I think I already went through this before to find that this option is not available in Sonar. If this is indeed the case I'd like to propose a feature request for this and perhaps some more advanced Now Time marker options. The particular behavior I am referring to is basically this... 1) Start Playback 2) The screen will remain unchanged until the Now Time Marker reaches the center of the current view. 3) Once the Now Time Marker reaches the center of the current view it remains centered and the view scrolls smoothly to the right as the project plays back. This is particularly helpful when zoomed all the in on something you want to audition for editing. It lets you keep an eye on the data as the section plays instead of jumping to the next section where your eyes (and brain) have to dart around trying to find the problem area. This works well in conjunction with combinations of the Rewind On Stop function enable/disabled. Basically if it is disabled then once you get to the problem area you can stop playback and that spot is centered on screen. If you have to scroll around to center the area when you are zoomed in it is difficult to be precise... especially if that spot has already jumped offscreen. Of course there is the option of center zooming on that point with the absolutely excellent (IMO) Time Ruler zoom but it is an extra step. If I am completely mistaken and there is a smooth scrolling option please point me in the right direction as it will really help my editing workflow. This is not a complaint... it is a question/suggestion. Don't flame me, bro. ;-)
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/01 12:42:18
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I agree...I really would prefer smooth scrolling. It's so natural when I'm editing audio in Sound Forge, that when I go back to Cakewalk the jumps from screen to screen are always a bit jarring. +1 smooth scrolling feature request
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/01 12:55:51
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It does seem like smooth scrolling is overdue. Maybe at one point it was considered too much of a resource hog, but enough people are rocking high powered DAW's these days to at least make it an option. I think the full version of Pro Tools has smooth scrolling. Anyway it annoys me most in the PRV when I'm trying to visually track notes as they're playing. Even though I know the screen jump is coming up, it always throws me and I have to realign my eyes with the notes.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/01 13:03:35
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I would pay good money for that option. Smooth scrolling used to be possible by holding down a certain key. but unfortuately, it didn't work in PRV or SV. For that reason it wasn't that uselful. being able to turn it off is a must, but I say let's ALL put in a feature request and gget then ASAP. Jamess
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/01 13:06:19
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Okay, so I'm not crazy. I didn't realize this was a resource issue but yeah, that seems like it wouldn't be such a problem these days. It's funny though because my old system is a complete joke compared to this one (although it was very nice at one point) and I never had any problems. I guess I got kind of spoiled by and/or accustomed to some of the features on that DAW even though it is very basic and rudimentary compared to Sonar X series. I will be trying to be more proactive in regards to feature requests instead of just pontificating here so hopefully the Bakers don't view that as an attack. I just want to help. I'm sure something like this would be difficult to code as it's probably embedded deep into the core of the program but it would be pretty sweet IMO. And Sharke... PRV editing is exactly what I'm doing right now and why I brought it up but I do find myself getting tripped up in the Track View as well. I didn't realize I had picked up so many habits/preferences from my old days of hackery.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/01 13:12:11
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BlixYZ I would pay good money for that option. Smooth scrolling used to be possible by holding down a certain key. but unfortuately, it didn't work in PRV or SV. For that reason it wasn't that uselful. being able to turn it off is a must, but I say let's ALL put in a feature request and gget then ASAP. Jamess
I'm going to try and be more proactive about feature requests and problem reports than I have been now that I understand the program a little better. Hopefully they aren't construed as complaints. I just want to help because I think Sonar could very well become top dog easily if they wanted to. Considering how this current release is looking perhaps in a few years we'll be the "industry standard". ;-)
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 06:02:39
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I agree. I would love to be able to view the notes that are about to be triggered, especially with complex orchestral programming
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 08:52:55
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again, I do think the is a key trigger for smooth scrolling. does anyone know what it is?
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 09:06:56
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Pre-X series it used to be holding down the 'G'-key. Dunno if it's still in there somewhere...
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 09:37:28
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Good morning. Woke up obscenely early (4:30am) and have been doing some midi editing. I just tried holding G with scrolling enabled and it still did the screen jump thing. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 09:39:57
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A BIG +1 for smooth scrolling!
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 09:53:50
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+1. I've used it on other daws and like it. I'd want it to be an option - fixed screen, moving time line - or - fixed time line, moving screen. Now, how about scrolling vertically instead of horizontally?
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 10:26:35
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"G" will do it, but only per instance each time it's hit. SONAR doesn't have a "mode" for it. Used to be only Digital Performer had this feature but it's ubiquitous now so yeah, I would also like to see it. When doing editing work trying to audition the jump is very tedious. You CAN hold the G key down and it will basically mimic that feature, which is a poor man's workaround.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 11:36:36
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kelsoz +1. I've used it on other daws and like it. I'd want it to be an option - fixed screen, moving time line - or - fixed time line, moving screen. Now, how about scrolling vertically instead of horizontally?
Sounds like you'd enjoy using a tracker instead of a DAW...some people still swear by them. They certainly make you think differently about composition and arrangement. I believe there are some freeware ones available these days. I used a tracker with vertical scrolling back in the day and loved it. In fact it was so ingrained on my mind that using a horizontal based DAW like PT or Sonar felt odd at first.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 12:12:13
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...wicked "G" will do it, but only per instance each time it's hit.
I can't make "G" do it. In TV or PRV. I just searched KBSC and the only "G" is Go To Time. Can you elaborate? Thanks
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 12:29:04
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I did indeed try G in both TV and PRV. The only thing that seems to have happened was that the Now Time refused to start from any other spot than where I had it after pressing G and trying to move the Now Time Marker manually. I had to use the shuttle slider in the transport module to unstick it. That's probably unrelated but that's the only thing that seemingly changed. Kind of freaked me out actually.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 12:33:32
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Ah yes... supposed to be Go To. Not sure why it got stuck or it didn't behave the way Go To is supposed to. Meh. I don't think smooth scroll is there in the X series, guys. I've moved on. Just disabling scroll is good enough for now. It's the first thing I do when I start messing with a project because the screen jumping thing is just far too distracting. I manually scroll when need be.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 19:06:46
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Agh, whooops, yeah they re-did that when they did the new key clusters in X1. Crud I don't know what the new shortcut key is!
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/02 19:07:59
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Ah, it's bindable. "center view on now time". I just bound it to my "Y" key.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/03 02:13:03
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I had forgotten about that. It was FR of mine many years ago. Needless say it would be a nice option.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/03 12:14:43
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I finally got around to putting in my feature request. I would not want it to be the new default, btw. It should be lockable on or off. It could be annoying if you couldn't turn it off!!!!!!!
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/03 19:03:31
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Interesting thread. Never thought about this before. Nice it can be bound to a key. Unfortunately you have to hold the key. It should stay locked when hitting the key and released when hitting it again.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/03 20:04:21
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/04 00:30:30
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/04 06:30:00
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/04 08:35:42
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Beeps, I know they're small, but it looks like you might want to consider glasses.
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/04 08:51:23
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soens Interesting thread. Never thought about this before. Nice it can be bound to a key. Unfortunately you have to hold the key. It should stay locked when hitting the key and released when hitting it again.
I agree, this would be a nice feature!
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Beepster
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/04 09:29:13
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stevec Beeps, I know they're small, but it looks like you might want to consider glasses.

My meme seems to have failed. Let's try this... ;-p
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Re: I forget... Is there a "Smooth Scrolling" Now Time option?
2013/11/04 10:19:51
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I assigned the "center view on now time" command to the period key some months ago. Soon after that I decided to use a different key for the command so I removed it from the period key, but, strangely, when I hit the period key it still works as "center view on now time." The only way to fix it is using [Zap All] (I tried assigning a new command to the period key, and the "Do Nothing" command, too). But I don't want to re-bind everything I've bound to date, so I contacted support. And it's been about 2 months since then with no reply.... So I don't recommend binding the "center view on now time" command. Anyway, you have to hold down the key to make it work so it's not really usable...
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