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2012/10/27 15:15:08 (permalink)

I got wood again...build completed.

...well I have to have something to put all these pups in and I know some here like to see
pictures.
Heres some....
 
This is a thick one piece...out of the same piece
I used for Ruby.
  
This is Zebra and it has a few natural flaws but they are small
and exceptable. It's from the same wood that was used on
Wookies and Grants....the last of it for guitar projects.
    .
These are the neck blocks. Freshly cut and not much
will be done for some time...to see if the wood wants to move.
I didn't use flame maple in the middle...hard clear maple with
Wenge and flame.
I cut the truss-rod slot in one and decided to break...I'll cut
the other before letting them sit.
 
...
 
I haven't decided on the other woods for the body.
 
I am building these with set-necks. I've only built neck-throughs
so this will be new. "Set-necks" are just a little longer than bolt-ons
and usually covered in the back by the body...glued in. Like PRS...most LPs..
I don't really care for bolt-ons. Just seem like a cheap way but I understand
Leo smart marketing ploy behind them.
I guess he saw all the LP heads snapping off LOL. "lets do a bolt on!" LOL
 
Anyway...hope you like the very beginning stages of a couple of guitars. ;0
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    craigb
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/27 16:07:29 (permalink)

     
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/27 16:11:27 (permalink)
    The necks look super nice!

    I'm still dreaming of a custom 4 string short scale bass with a pair of spacey-coils.

    ;-)

    best regards,
    mike


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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/27 16:46:47 (permalink)
    It's really nice to see this after all the work you put into making a place to do this stuff in.
     
    It won't feel like home until the scent of all the various wood cutting, finishes, solder and such permeate the fabric of the building.
     
    It must be good for you to see pieces like this sitting around at last instead of construction materials and building tools.
    post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/10/27 16:48:20

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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/27 17:27:49 (permalink)
    Mike I'm getting squared away and I know you just started a new year
    for your purchases LOL..so we have time. You're welcome to shoot ideas
    and preferences anytime ...I'll keep notes.
    I have a 4" steel I-beam that I clamp the wood to. I've had very good
    luck with straight blocks. I'll be really surprised if these aren't straight
    in a few weeks.


    Jon you hit it on the head my friend. It's been a very long haul getting my
    shop ready for building and it's been a great couple of days getting back
    in the groove.
    Getting side-tracked with the interest of pups held me back but I think
    it is worth it. Building the pups for the instruments was something I just 
    couldn't shake. 
    The problem I have to address is that I know how to fine tune a guitar so
    I have a lot of work to learn how to fine tune pups. I have faith in those
    that are helping me. They have years of experience and knowledge and
    they're good souls...they don't mind sharing the information and have a genuine
    desire to help one succeed. I'm not going to drop names but if I did one wouldn't
    think they'd waste time on a beginner...but I can tell you, they will.
    It's much like playing an instrument though...one can show you a chord but ya still
    have to make it work LOL.
    OH ..the smell....first time I've cut Wenge Jon...it was like a fine pipe tobaco- to me. It's
    the best smelling wood I've worked with. Wonderful smell.
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/27 18:54:14 (permalink)

    I'm not going to drop names but if I did one wouldn't think they'd waste time on a beginner...but I can tell you, they will.
     
    I can't tell you the amount of times I've come across this in all walks of life, it seems the more REAL mastery somebody attains in a particular field the more generous they seem to become with regard to sharing that knowledge when approached by someone really willing to listen.
     
    I always find it refreshing that they never seem to clamour to be heard and they will allow others to carry on doing what they do.  But when approached someone like this will take you to the very core of an issue.  It's very humbling.
    post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/10/27 18:58:58

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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/27 20:40:41 (permalink)
    Cool another road trip with Spacey at the bars.

    Both you and JB are so right about the true givers of this world.

    Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/28 09:41:27 (permalink)
    That looks like a beautiful piece for your next playable sculpture.  

    Should auld acquaintance be forgot--hey, who the hell are you guys?  
     
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/28 09:51:10 (permalink)


    "playable sculpture"


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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/28 14:18:53 (permalink)
    I had made a table saw when I started building that was specifically
    for cutting fret slots.
    I finally got wise and made a jig so I could save space and have just one table saw.

    This is rosewood for one of the two. I'm thinking I'll use Ebony for the Zebra...

    One can buy the fretboards slotted but one can also buy a complete guitar LOL.



    Didn't time it but probably less than five minuts to cut them not
    including the set-up time.

    With now having a shop I imagine there will be more changes in
    how I do things. This is sure easier and safer than my original way.
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/28 19:12:08 (permalink)


    Nice jig.

    What's the kerf on the blade?

    Did you notch the aluminum or commission having it done?


    best regards,
    mike


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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/28 19:41:39 (permalink)
    Fret slotting.
    I have also used this.

    And these save all the measuring.

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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/29 07:34:53 (permalink)


    It looks like you use the notches on the "scale" to key up placement on the sled?

    Do you have some sort of "key", built in to the leading plate on your sled, that fits in the notch or do you just use your eye balls for alignment?




    Either way... very clever!

    :-)


    best regards,
    mike


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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/29 08:19:12 (permalink)
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    It looks like you use the notches on the "scale" to key up placement on the sled?

    Do you have some sort of "key", built in to the leading plate on your sled, that fits in the notch or do you just use your eye balls for alignment?




    Either way... very clever!

    :-)


    best regards,
    mike
    There are detailed instructions on the page Mike....with diagrams- much better than
    I could explain.
     
    I agree...very clever. They come up with some very cool tools for building.
    They are also expensive but I've been impressed with the quality so that helps.
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/29 08:21:37 (permalink)


    :-)

    I should have read the description!

    :-)






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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/29 08:25:26 (permalink)
    a picture tells a.....

    The tricky part Mike is the depth of cut...remember there is a radius to consider
    that isn't there yet LOL.
     
     
     
    If I just posted pics look at all the other info that would be missed from their sight.
    post edited by spacey - 2012/10/29 08:27:39
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/29 08:35:37 (permalink)


    I really like Stew Mac.


    Many years ago my friend Buster and I were sitting at our work bench and I was dressing some frets on a SG using a draftsman's eraser shield to protect the wood. Buster and I were both former draftsman so the idea wasn't a big stretch for our imagination.




    Buster was on the phone with Stew Mac for something else, and as he was a great casual conservationist he came to describe our use of this item and he suggested that they sell them.


    Within a year Stew Mac displayed "fret board" shields in their catalog that looked just like the one shown above and now, years later, that product has evolved into this:







    I've long admired how Stew Mac gathers ideas from their end users and makes them more widely available at fair prices.


    BTW, I haven't used a shield in a while... but it was really helpful when I was young and nervous about placing a file near a guitar. :-)



    :-)


    all the best,
    mike

    post edited by mike_mccue - 2012/10/29 08:36:49


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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/10/29 09:02:14 (permalink)
    They also offer one that covers many frets.

    I tape off the fretboard- easier for me and exact fit/protection to fret.
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/04 11:33:55 (permalink)
    I decided which top for this one so rough shaped the pieces. (body and neck)
    Mahogany body- Zebra top-Maple and Wenge neck

    Set-in neck (my first) - I'll be lining the neck pocket with a layer
    of Wenge. The set-in will be like a dove-tail joint.

    Hope you enjoy.

    The neck block has also been cut to thickness for the set-in
        

    It's been slow...I've had a hard time deciding on hardware.
    I'm building this one for myself and like so many things.
    Rainy day...a good day to make my mind up....uh oh...the sun
    just came out.

    Think a Bigsby would be cool? ...and some P-90s?
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/04 17:52:02 (permalink)
    yes and yes.


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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/04 19:17:56 (permalink)
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    yes and yes.


    Yeah.  Of course, you can always create another if you get the itch to try something different!

     
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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/04 19:51:33 (permalink)
    +1 bump

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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/04 21:01:44 (permalink)
    Sweet

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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/04 21:28:00 (permalink)
    It's been many years since I've had a guitar with a Bigsby and one with P-90s.
    I'm sure leaning that way.

    Craig this one is the "itch". I have two other factory models so this one is
    to be different. Waiting on parts to wind some mini-humbuckers and thinking
    since I don't like the SG body that this one may be a good one for some Gibson
    flavor.

    I just closed up shop and I'm feeling good about it. There are quite a few things I'm
    doing for the first time with this one and so far...so good.






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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/05 06:56:08 (permalink)


    The G&L Korina P-90 Tele copies have been looking real nice to me.

    The so called Cabronita bodies that Warmoth sells seem to define an interesting form factor too.



    My Wife has a Bigsby, but I don't... hence my perceived need for more guitars with Bigsbys.

    I've long recognized that I really like single coils and just sorta like humbuckers... the P-90 is a great choice!



    :-)

    I had to settle for fabricating a pair of window sills yesterday. Wood working season started yesterday!

    :-)

    best regards,
    mike


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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/05 06:57:17 (permalink)


    "since I don't like the SG body"




    Have you ever considered a double cut Tele outline?


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    Re:I got wood again... 2012/11/05 08:37:46 (permalink)
    The first body I made was a double cutaway. After assembling it
    with a Carvin neck I took it apart and decided I should build my
    own necks. That's what got me into this.
    Still have the body.

    I like the G&L. I almost went with a Korina top to match my Strat.

    Well I'm sure curious how the P-90s I made will sound....so I should
    find out.

    Thanks for the links/ideas Mike.
    Talking with my wife this morning I mentioned that I was going
    to put the cavity in back-go with V-T and blender. Cool seeing
    the back of the G&L and seeing that I didn't like the switch but
    liking the slant of the controls, which I was considering.

    First I have to get the set-in neck right...made a template yesterday
    and maybe I'll have the nerve to give it a go this eve. Ya know that
    type of building came from violin makers? Like a dovetail. Should be
    a great joint. Just a longer center line I guess.
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    Re:I got wood again...11-4 update. 2012/11/05 13:37:30 (permalink)
    I got wood again



    Me too. Thank god for Viagra.
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    Re:I got wood again...11-4 update. 2012/11/05 18:54:03 (permalink)
    We'd really like to see that neck joint once you get it cut. It's somewhat of an oldstyle joint, before the neck through style and the bolt on neck. The only thing older is a guitar carved from a single peice of wood. I don't think you'll find many of those around.

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    Re:I got wood again...11-4 update. 2012/11/05 21:33:27 (permalink)
    I hear you Craig. I've been trying to imagine every possible thing that I could
    be missing or doing wrong.

    I managed to get the neck and body aligned balls on and the border to route it
    in place. Tomorrow I'll double check it and secure the border so it can't move and decide
    how much smaller to make the pocket.

    It would be easier to build from one block of wood and I'm in deep enough with this set-in to know
    that it is much harder to build a set-in than a neck-through. With a neck-through the center-line is on one piece of wood that
    goes from the head to the tail. The set-in is like a pivot place for the line to bend.
    Since it's my first I'm not absolutely certain but right now if it's not perfect I can't imagine
    any way to save it.

    Maybe tomorrow evening I'll give it a shot.
    I've been told if I do it right I can pick it up by the head and the body will stay on. Nice and tight is good if the center
    line is balls on. Yeah...I've got butterflies already LOL.

    I have a PRS body that shows how this joint can fail. I think my design is better IF I can do it.
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