I have to ask !!! SampleTank 3 : really ?

Zo
Ok i just installed (finally ) Sampletank 3 because ineeded to check Sample*moog for some Taurus sounds ... 
 
I ain' gonna expand on the instal and import thing  ....
 
But first some sounds imported are way lower or too loud , it's sometime hit and miss ....but i can live with that ...what kills me is that :
 
1) Browser : REALLY ? in 2K7 we have to get trees and not even a next / Previous presets , not tags , filters and all ..? Most of us own the dam total worksation .... try to close all opened folder after a search with zillion of folder in results ...( add to this dry sounds and their variartion are no more regrouped so welcome to the exponential presets crowd)
 
2) S3 , 2014 release date , HD screeen everywhere and a GUI like they have to pay the space !! i mean common , i even find the old layout more optimised if optimisation was a concern !!
The EDit page is crowdy as hell (looks like they got knobs and throught them with a baseball bat randomly ) , the console view is ok ... the pad view ok useless here but i can understand ...Do they actually know (the guyz behind this project) the meaning of ergonomy or how to take of constraint in a creative process .....
 
3) FX : can't drag drop to change the order ? no undo redo ...so if i finally want to change the order , it's erase , and change , reddo settings ect ...
 
4) 10 years in the making and not even time to stick visuals for old librarys ?  REALLY ? 10 YEARS !!! tell me how to do it and i will do it for you guyz !! 
 
I'm not moaning for nothing , i'm frustrated as hell cause this Plugin and its library has a **** sound and caracter , not Spitfire or Projec sam ...lol but this is designed for producers !!! and sound design is a breez in it ...For the love of GOD give that product and your costumers respect  .... make guis that sticks with today standard , hire a guy , YOU guyz know how to make great gui's , this "flagship" is a zodiac !!  Falcon , Machfive , Halion , Kontakt and this is your answer , claiming 10 years in the making ? not even ashame of saying it ? I know im' rude , but i saw crazy energy spent in iOS stuff , HW , new plugins and fx fake money , new custom shop ect ...... so my expectation was high .... i really can't believ this is what you guyz have to propose at the end ...
 
All i see is bad signs everywhere since few months ...i tend to no more use IK stuff because their direction is like Avid , APPLE ect .... i remeber when they introduced the "you need to download , you have to pay" thing ... can't recall a compagny doing this ...
 
So give us guyz signs , you have skill you guyz makes some of the best sounding stuff in the industry but please listen to your costumers and respect them , those are not ony credit cards number ...
 
Sorry if i'm rude (Peter , Obi ) ...pay attention to the subject not the form ..i'm sometime not that smooth ... when i didn't sleep (i was trying madly to convert your bank in another format to use them in falcon..but sample  extreme converter can't handle it :( 

I very much agree, Zo. 10 years in the making and a very mediocre result (and I'm exaggerating here!)
 
I used ST2 what feels like decades ago (in terms of software bought and used) because I wanted access to Miroslav and SampleTron sounds ... but while the sound was great, the interface back then was very uninspiring and IMHO cumbersome.
 
Then ST3 came out after years of announcing it and it looked and felt the same. Everybody had been waiting for it because ST2 was 32 bit only, kept crashing occasionally and in fact was the last 32 bit plug on my DAW for a long time (becasue there was no 64 bit replacement).  However, they charged for ST3 (or at least tried to) ... and the free version couldn't load the purchased legacy libs. How cool was that !?!? Sensing the irony, I hope ...
 
Personally, I haven't bought anything from IK in a long time now. They focus way too much on iCrap toys these days.
 
 

bigcatt
 
plus the VST3 will completely crash Windows 10 / Studio One.

not in my experience (on both accounts )

If you want great Taurus sounds, check out Trillian...
 
Dan
 

Ahahaha , you guyz made my day dose of laught today lol

Let s make it constructive , ik multimedia are super talented , and their tools are brilliant , Arc 2 was one of my best buy in the decade , their FX line covers a lot of areas with class , and their guitar amp ( that i don t use ) are alwayz praised ...

The sounds in Sampletank line is not on pair with todays stangard BUT this is exactly what s needed time to time .... if the industry gies one Way sound wise , i tend to go the other way , not by choice , but certainly because of saturation of my ears lol

But really , i didn t wanted to go sampletank 3 since it was out because i was dissapointed by what i saw on video , add to this their customshop thing , one more for the tank ... i even do find that old interface for exemple for samplemoog is classier , and better layed out , if they would have worked on it , bigger size and tweaked the browsing , i would have say ok ( not for 10 years i hope lol)

I really feel sorry for Peter and Obi , because i know what it does to represent and work for a compagny that think they know stuff better than others , than its costumers and people close to them (Peter and Obi in this case) ...

Yep i have trillian and the taurus library isn t exeptional ...i even prefered the taurus sound in electric keyz ... i like what i heard in samplemoog and some sonicSynth ... i was about to get a minitaur but i want to stay itb ...

So at the end they had some that could have a second life for real with small tweaks here and there , 10 years for that , reflects typically some trouble in the process of making it , we all know ik moved from dinausore marketing era to wall street ... so it really reflects a bizness direction impulsed by some vision in the company ... because for sure if they had at least took some users , professionals and regular advices / requests , it would have been another product ...

I cannot think of one guy happy with this browser , exept the financial punk in the company that sees in this an era to not waist money and time ... the term Interface says what s it s all about , the interaction with the user is the key ...
I do time to time plugin dev consulting and i did since years , and i really push HARD to make some people to really understand this ...some are humble and do stuff like it ssupposed to ( i remeber Fabrice Gabriel and Air eq interface , i even sent him some old hifi gear picture to make him feel what i called old classy design ...) , and some are just self satisfied ...( i m not saying that this is the case with Ik but i cannot see another explaination because the other answer will be then incompetance, not the dev one , but the project director one ! )

So why this thread , well to share my frustration , to have some of your thought and to try to have a feedback from ik and what the deal in the future of this app , they annouced some stuff when it came out and nothing after near 3 years ... they made a good move listening to people when they annouced the free version compatibility with old banks ..( yep they listen time to time when it doesn t cost money i think ) .

Sorry to sound like a moaner time to time in the forum but i feell like sometime , thing gotta be said a little on the hard side to create stuff that never happended since years with the cooler manner ...

Dats fo shore isn't wot it uist to bee.

Caa2
"crowdy as hell"
 
Can I use that?

Preach my friend , preach !!!

The Grim

bigcatt
 
plus the VST3 will completely crash Windows 10 / Studio One.

not in my experience (on both accounts )

I used ST2 for years and purchased ST3 but it crashes every time I use it.  I can't seem to figure it out.  Stopped trying.

it just works fine for me, always has. with plugins if there is a choice between vst/vst3, i always use the vst3, not that i have had problems with vst2.

Zo if you are after Moog sounds why not just go to the virtual instruments that actually do it and very well. e.g. some form of Arturia product. Sampletank is the last place I would look.

Jeff Evans
Zo if you are after Moog sounds why not just go to the virtual instruments that actually do it and very well. e.g. some form of Arturia product. Sampletank is the last place I would look.

I was considering buying a Moog Little Phatty until I got the xhun Littleone synth a few weeks ago. This one sort of "cured" my GAS for that one (pun intended). And between the Li'l phatty and Minitaur I'd choose the former 'cause the Minitaur architecture is too limited IMHO.
 
The only problem with LittleOne is that it's only 32 bit. But It worked flawlessly in my system (SPLAT/Win7). And if you don't like this... there's always Monark, Arturia, etc.
 
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