I made my first vid... about making vids... of Sonar of course.

Beep - How long did it take to upload a 4-3/4 hour vid to utube? 
 
This looks & sounds very pro to me after clicking thru it.  It will take a really long time for me to complete a video this long.  Very nicely done

BobF
Beep - How long did it take to upload a 4-3/4 hour vid to utube? 
 
This looks & sounds very pro to me after clicking thru it.  It will take a really long time for me to complete a video this long.  Very nicely done

The upload was surpisingly fast (about 20 minutes IIRC). The youtube "processing" is what took a while. That's where they do their conversion to the various resolution levels. That I let sit overnight so I don't know exactly how long it took so I'll just say 24 hours.
 
However I think it makes the lower res versions it processes available quickly then as the higher res versions get processed they get added to the vid options.
 
All I know is it was ready to go the next day up to 480p.
 
And then they took it down... for some unknown reason. I had to appeal it and get it reinstated. Very odd. That took up another day but all seems to be well now.
 
I have however seen reports of wicked long upload times. I may have just gotten lucky or their Canadian server doesn't get as slammed as others (if they even have a Canadian server).
 
Cheers.

Beepster

Zargg71
Cool, Beeps Bookmarked, and will watch it later (when more time) 
All the best.

Right on. It's really the type of thing that unless you REALLY need to know it it's likely not helpful/useful.
 
However the entries on Voicemeeter and the wacky routing might be interesting to some.
 
Cheers.

Some things are just cool to know, even if not necessary Never used Voicemeter, and like to see how others work as well , so it is more out of curiosity than "the need to know"
All the best.

they probably took it down, because initially you're limited to 10 minute videos I believe.  Then after a few more videos, I believe you can extend the time.  Check in your Youtube settings.  Seems like they did it for you right away!

mixmkr
they probably took it down, because initially you're limited to 10 minute videos I believe.  Then after a few more videos, I believe you can extend the time.  Check in your Youtube settings.  Seems like they did it for you right away!

Actually you have to "verify" your account to extend the time limit beyond 15 minutes. Takes about a minute but they gotta give you an autocall to give you a verification code.
 
The old system was different I think though.
 
I'm pretty sure they yanked it the first time because I used too many tags or something (but I was mislead into believing you could add as many as you want as long as they pertain to the vid... which mine did). They never explained it so IDK... I appealed and it came back.
 
Definitely a learning experience and navigating youtube itself was part of my little test/experiment. I intentionally wanted to put up a vid longer than 15 mins because... well I have a tendency to blather on so my vids are likely to be... urrrh... longish.
 
lulz...
 
Cheers!

Beepster
 
 Just want to share what I know while I still tread this earth... yanno? It's important to me.
 
Cheers!

An excellent sentiment, sir, one that I understand very well...I know. I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to the wealth of knowledge this and future vids will impart :)
 
Thank you!

one last comment for now  (sorry!!)..  You might shoot for 1080hd for a resolution and I think 4K will be more popular in a year.  Makes a big difference over 480 and I'm sure your screen capture has that setting.  Of course much larger files then too, but give good clarity when watching full screen (like on my 27" monitors).
Quickly scrolling, I heard some audio issues, but over 4.5 hrs...eh?
For a first vid...bravo!

mixmkr
one last comment for now  (sorry!!)..  You might shoot for 1080hd for a resolution and I think 4K will be more popular in a year.  Makes a big difference over 480 and I'm sure your screen capture has that setting.  Of course much larger files then too, but give good clarity when watching full screen (like on my 27" monitors).
Quickly scrolling, I heard some audio issues, but over 4.5 hrs...eh?
For a first vid...bravo!

Yeah the audio glitches are from Sonar crapping out a bit because I had to switch to Voicemeeter as the output device. That was kind of part of the test. The project in the vid is actually pretty big with quite a few active effects (not nearly as big as other projects of mine but still). All in all it fared pretty well without having to futz with buffer settings and other optimization crap too much but I will be keeping an eye on that in the future. It got less glitchy the more I messed with stuff.
 
As far as the vid quality I think that got capped by Windows Movie Maker due to my export settings. I didn't really want to go for the HiDef export due to the length of the vid (and the likely file size after export). I really didn't spend a TON of time studying Movie Maker because it kind of sucks and I'll probably end up using something else in the future. It worked in a pinch though and is relatively easy to edit with.
 
Again part of the test but for sure... thanks for the input. I am of course new at this so any insights are appreciated.
 
Cheeers!

Damn Beeps. You are going to need a program with a razor tool for editting. I have not had a chance to look at this any yet, but the average viewer is looking for scripted videos they can watch in one sitting.

5 hours is like half the original Shogun mini-series!

mettelus
Damn Beeps. You are going to need a program with a razor tool for editting. I have not had a chance to look at this any yet, but the average viewer is looking for scripted videos they can watch in one sitting.

5 hours is like half the original Shogun mini-series!

lulz... I anticipate future vids to be a little more concise but in some cases... maybe not.
 
The audience I'm going for are those that REALLY need the straight dope on sh*z. I personally can't stand those "quick byte" type vids that hardly explain anything. I end up having to scour around endless vids and other sites to get an idea of how to do what I want.
 
While researching this stuff just so I could make these programs work together (and how to use them) I watched DOZENS of vids (perhaps even approaching 100) as well as reading the manuals and all sorts of weird sites/posts around the web.
 
Funnily enough the one vid on Voicemeeter that helped me really nail down what I wanted was over an hour long... and even then it was quite vague about this particular usage (I had to "glean" the configuration from the other stuff he was talking about).
 
I'm not quite sure where this channel will go or how my vid style will evolve but I'm certainly not out for the impatient, low attention span crowd.
 
The folks here on site are a good example of who I'd be creating for. Motivated, intelligent and able to focus on something for more than ten minutes. lulz...
 
However I will be at least "mapping" such vids in the future (f*ck scripting... that would take too damn long and is no fun for me). Hopefully that will keep me moving along a little more quickly with les "ummms", repitition and superfluous sidebars.
 
Cheeers.

Beepster
I checked out a LOT of vids/tuts on Voicemeeter and they only seemed to allude to the "Composite" outputs. Those are the outputs necessary for us audio guys to tap into to separate our channels from each other (system sounds, mic, other live inputs, etc) so that would likely be interesting/useful to those not really concerned about screencap stuff.

Is Voicemeter still necessary now that Sonar supports patch points and synth recording ?  I know that that was why I initially looked into and installed Voicemeter.
 

mixmkr
Also, not that I get a zillion views or anything, but consider breaking your videos down to MUCH smaller segments.

I don't want to detract from the effort you've obviously expended for our benefit, but just the mention of your vid being five hours long turned me completely off wanting to give it a spin.  If it isn't too much trouble, splitting it up into different issues would definitely encourage us (at least me) to check out what you have to offer.
 

@PaulP...
 
AFAIK patch points and aux tracks wouldn't work for what I'm describing (which is recording Sonar/system output + a live mic into other programs... in this case Action!). What would make Voicemeeter unnecessary for this would be more due to Win10 WDM mode improvements. If those can get close to ASIO quality results then, AFAIK, you could just switch to WDM and avoid the stubborn inflexibility of ASIO mode for program to program recording.
 
And I actually did break it up into sections but using the "timecode link" method (instead of uploading a bunch of smaller vids). Click on "Show More" in the description and you can navigate the chapters. If you are already intimately familiar with Voicemeeter it may not be much use to you because you'd likely be able to figure the routing out yourself. However the tour of Action! and some of the Reaper audio folder tricks are kind of neat.
 
Cheeers!
 
@John... Thanks, dood. The next ones should be better and about more interesting/useful stuff.
 
Cheers.

Weird. Thread views are over 300 on my screen.
 
As for the youtube views I'm not sure but maybe it's logging a separate view as people navigate the chapters?
 
I doubt it's coming from youtube because pretty much all the views before posting this thread were from me testing it, my one buddy I sent it to before posting this thread and I think the youtube admins looking into my removal appeal.
 
Then again maybe as people here watch it it got indexed with other tech vids.
 
Still better than I expected considering how specific the content is.
 
Thanks doods.

John
My only problem with the vid is a certain other DAW is named. I forgive the Beep for that oversight.  

A necessary evil in this case because you can't record from one Sonar project into another Sonar project (I tried).
 
However an explanation and workaround was suggested by one of the forumites (sorry... I forget who ATM without digging up the thread). Basically there is only one Sonar audio engine that can be running at one time so you can't use it to do transport stuff (playback, recording, etc) in two projects at once.
 
The workaround was to use an older version of Sonar to record the discrete audio tracks (so the source project would/could be SPlat and the target project for the discrete audio tracks could be X3). I did not test that but it makes sense.
 
Thing is though, as much as it has been streamlined, Sonar is of course a bit more of a resource hog than Reaper. I know having two versions at once going on my system PLUS the screencap software PLUS having the audio stream semi crippled because it's running through Voicemeeter (not the full on Focusrite drivers) I would likely get more audible glitches/dropouts.
 
Also due to the unlimited demo of Reaper those who only own one version of Sonar (like new users who only have SPlat... and will NEVER have access to two separate versions like we oldster do without hunting down old physical boxed stock) I figured Reaper was a good choice.
 
And really it was all I had access to aside from my old Sonar installs. I actually really like Reaper as an alternate DAW but I consider it more of a companion to Sonar than anything. I intend to really study it more and use it to hopefully round out some of the workflow things that get in my way in Sonar.
 
Overall though Sonar is much better for my creative process so as I said... more of companion tool to Sonar as opposed to something I'd use full time.
 
Soooo yeah, I guess that's probably a long winded explanation but worth mentioning. I did put quite a bit of thought/testing into it and that seemed to be the best "route" (pun intended). lulz...
 
Cheers!

It's almost impossible to do anything really complicated with one piece of software.