Mitch_I
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 12:34:35
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Bit, I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Here's what I'd suggest. 1. Build up your LinkedIn page. Include all the technologies you've worked with so you show up in searches. 2. Let all your contacts know you're looking. 3. Have a nice resume ready to customize for various jobs. 4. As already suggested, put a resume on Monster. Be ready for calls from agencies. But that's OK, because 5. Most IT hiring nowadays seems to be through agencies. Aim for contract-to-hire. 6. Don't be surprised if you get rejected by some companies because you lack that one specific technology they need. Your posts in this forum tell me that you're a highly skilled and experienced tech guy with deep knowledge who happens to be amazingly sensible and clear-headed and a good writer. You have a lot going for you. Mitch I.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 12:41:32
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I haven't searched for a job in the traditional sense for well over a decade and that was usually for just grunt/subsistence work. However I'm all over the net interacting with all the modern hip kids of different stripes and it seems that a useful tool to have is a linkedin profile. It's basically Facebook for professionals seeking/providing work. It may not get you a job directly (but it might) however this seems to be almost a prerequisite thing to have for many companies. Like say you are inquiring somewhere it is very likely they will ask you for your linkedin profile. If you have one it may give you the edge over others who don't simply because you are aware of the site which lets them know you are a modern type fella. Best of luck to you bit. I do not envy anyone having to toss themselves to the proverbial wolves in the modern job market. You're a smart dude though. I'm sure you'll land something decent. Hope your back is feeling better. Cheers.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 12:45:11
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Ah... I see now linkedin has been mentioned a couple times already. It really couldn't hurt to get something up there. However if you are like me having all shown to the world might seem a bit unsettling but that's unfortunately where we're at. I've heard of some places requesting that applicants hand over their Facebook passwords so they can check you out. Ridiculous. How did we get here? Edit: I was just looking over how linkedin actually works and it looks like they have a lot of rules and procedures in place to avoid abuse. Perhaps if you get one set up you could create a starter network from some of the folks here with accounts. Who knows... maybe that way your skills as a musician/engineer could land you a more fun/interesting gig than you'd find otherwise.
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dmbaer
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 13:37:46
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Dave, Don't overlook the fact that you have first rate communication skills, as you have amply demonstrated here again and again. It's rare enough for a software developer to be able to string a series of words together in a grammatcially correct fashion. It's even more rare when they can construct a document that communicates what is needed with clarity. Be sure and emphisize that skill to whomever you contact regarding employment. Best of luck.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 13:51:04
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Sure glad the recovery went so well for you Bit. Let me see.. Look for work..? Cash in pennys and not buy software..? Cash them in! Working sucks and that starts when one has to start looking for it. Best for whatever you choose.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 14:28:28
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That is wise advice, Spacey. Not always practical if someone is already overextended but if there are other options to ease the pressure until things even out with the current situation as they are or to give a little more breathing room to not make unpleasant commitments to less than desirable employers that tends to work out better. I equate my gear to those proverbial pennies. In many ways I look at my gear as an emergency fund. Sure I may take a bath on some stuff but if it means becoming homeless or having to hock something... well it's a lot less expensive to replace a guitar, amp or computer than it is to have to go through the insanity of setting up in a new place. Besides if I don't have a home where the heck am I gonna keep my junk? Before that I'll look into personal loans from people who have vested interested in keeping me afloat and know I will do everything I can to square things up (good credit with friends/family is far more valuable than corporate credit... at least for small short term amounts). Sometimes/many times all a desperate situation needs is time to sort out. A small influx of cash can provide that time. I'm not sure if this would apply to bit's situation (and I know it's a hot topic issue so the suggestion is not meant to bring up politics... at all) but perhaps with the new healthcare stuff that's going on there is a solution to ease some of the medical bill burden on the horizon. Frankly I don't know how you guys do it. If I had to pay for all the medical crap I've been though the past few years... well my financial life would be over. $600 per month just to be kind of covered... as a healthy person? Cripes! That's almost what I pay in rent and have peanuts left over as it is. Anyway... I'd scan through anything I have of value that isn't absolutely imperative to survival and sell the frack out of it. Any time I've done that I've always managed to keep afloat and found I didn't really need that stuff anyway and found much better things to replace it which then ends up going back into the "penny" fund for future raiding. The only times I've been TRULY screwed is when all the gear was gone, the rent was due and the wolves were at the door. But somehow, someway someone always came along and gave me some work or other opportunity to keep me going. The universe... it's funny that way... which is why I will never fully discount the possibility of a higher power. Just wish he'd stop by sometime so we could have a beer and chat about this mad thing we call existence. ;-)
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spacey
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 14:47:04
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And then there is the time issue Beepster.... If I could get any of it back that I'm having to spend at the workplace and still be able to meet my family needs....they'd see the dust trail and ask what the hell was that? Of course there's the age factor. Maybe ones time becomes more valuable to them with age?...which also means that my salary isn't increasing as fast as my time value LOL! Damn....I'm going in the hole working! Cash in Bit! Cash in!
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 15:09:08
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Indeed. This is something I keep trying to express to people I care about but it tends fall on deaf ears due to how we are all conditioned to operate. Quality of life must be included in any cost/benefit calculations and quality of life does not necessarily equate to more money/stuff. Sometimes dropping a few items and cutting a few things from the budget for... well let's give it an arbitrary value of say $200 a month... meaning between the things you cut like buying the no name brand versions of your favorite food, eliminating a couple nights out and opting for popcorn/movies at home/buying the less expensive guitar strings and making them last longer or essentially anything you can get away with and the added per month value of selling a $1000 piece of gear over 6 months. Now you have an extra $200 a month. If you had to drive to a new job, pay for the gas, get accustomed to how everything is and sacrifice your time and happiness for that extra two hundred bucks (or say $400 which gets widdled away to $200 after the aforementioned expenses) would it be worth it? Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Many times though putting yourself through all that and degrading your quality of life (true quality of life as in happiness) just isn't worth it. Life will provide especially in prosperous countries such as ours. Things are indeed bleak out there but still far better than they could be if we were in some third world hellhole. When I'm feeling crappy about my life I think about folks who've got it REALLY bad and shut that negativity down immediately. I have a place to live, some food in the fridge and some fancy things to make fancy noise. In the grand scheme of things I'm living like a freaking king.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 18:17:13
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2013/10/17 18:19:19
My advice... try to find a job that pays well and does not require work. Jobs that require work never pay very well. J
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 18:21:32
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jbow My advice... try to find a job that pays well and does not require work. Jobs that require work never pay very well. J
We have guys who do those jobs over here. They are called supervisors or something like that and you see them at road works. There will be about 3-4 of them supervising one guy doing all the shovelwork. It's like a chaingang where the numbers are reversed between the guards and prisoners.
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jbow
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 18:24:59
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backwoods
jbow My advice... try to find a job that pays well and does not require work. Jobs that require work never pay very well. J
We have guys who do those jobs over here. They are called supervisors or something like that and you see them at road works. There will be about 3-4 of them supervising one guy doing all the shovelwork. It's like a chaingang where the numbers are reversed between the guards and prisoners.
Yeah... it seems like I have always been too busy working to have time to make any money. Thankfully, I married up. J
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/17 19:01:37
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backwoods
jbow My advice... try to find a job that pays well and does not require work. Jobs that require work never pay very well. J
We have guys who do those jobs over here. They are called supervisors or something like that and you see them at road works. There will be about 3-4 of them supervising one guy doing all the shovelwork. It's like a chaingang where the numbers are reversed between the guards and prisoners.
 Poor Andre...
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backwoods
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 02:19:26
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 04:52:40
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Ha! I love it when people take one of those "weird" pictures and just run with it. I've got a couple of these trainwrecks saved, but my favorites are one of this overweight asian kid (see below) and one from Gear Sluts of a guy singing into a mic that just went off ( Click Here). I'll add the link to the Wolf Guy so Bit can have something to look at while waiting for the next interview call. This kid is the other one: As for the Linked In suggestions, I just looked at my profile for the first time in a long time and all I can say is I'm not sure how much it will help! I did see several people I used to work with that had some really creative lies skills and work history listed.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 10:56:03
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The Andre picture is obviously photoshopped: the marketing manager has dirt on his shoes.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 13:46:02
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Write a dumb iPhone game full of flashing colors, preferably involving candy and/or jewels. I just read that Candy Crush is making its owners $400,000 per DAY. Per DAY.
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craigb
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 14:03:52
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sharke Write a dumb iPhone game full of flashing colors, preferably involving candy and/or jewels. I just read that Candy Crush is making its owners $400,000 per DAY. Per DAY.
That will buy some plug-ins, ya?
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 16:43:07
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dmbaer Dave, Don't overlook the fact that you have first rate communication skills, as you have amply demonstrated here again and again. It's rare enough for a software developer to be able to string a series of words together in a grammatcially correct fashion. It's even more rare when they can construct a document that communicates what is needed with clarity. Be sure and emphisize that skill to whomever you contact regarding employment. Best of luck.
dmbaer has a very good point here +1
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paulo
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 17:08:01
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Bit, you should ask everyone here on this forum who has benefitted from your shared knowledge and wisdom to donate $10 to the KBS (Keep Bitflipper Solvent) Fund. If you don't get enough to pay the bills, you should at least get plenty enough to enable you to buy something to make you forget about them for a good while.........
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craigb
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 17:17:31
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paulo Bit, you should ask everyone here on this forum who has benefitted from your shared knowledge and wisdom to donate $10 to the KBS (Keep Bitflipper Solvent) Fund. If you don't get enough to pay the bills, you should at least get plenty enough to enable you to buy something to make you forget about them for a good while.........
I set up a similar fund for me a while back. Apparently I now owe around $1,930...
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 17:24:51
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craigb
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 17:30:10
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 17:41:21
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Or, if everybody goes out and buys the new FabFilter Pro-MB plugin and lets me refer them, I'll be able to get it myself. Won't help with the hospital bills, but to paraphrase the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, new plugins will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no new plugins.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/18 18:19:50
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If you find a magic solution to your situation Bit, ol pal, please post it as I'm not far behind you. When you've run your own business and been your own boss for many years like we have it's nigh to impossible to start over again. Not on account of us, mind...but the perception of us. Here's a thought I've been toying with and have actually drawn some real interest in...teaching recording skills and modern daw usage at "tech" schools. Could be fun.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/19 00:01:21
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That would be fun indeed. I'm surprised that none of the struggling studios have thought of it. I actually used to teach at a tech school long ago (oscillators, amplifiers and electronics math). It was a fun time. Now, how to tout my expertise in tube circuits without admitting the reason I know that stuff is that I'm old as the hills?
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/19 00:05:19
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2013/10/19 00:18:01
"Just For Men" beard darkener and a "Decemberists" T-Shirt??
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craigb
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/19 00:17:55
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yorolpal "Just For Men" beard darkener and a "Decemberists" T-Shirt??
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/19 11:43:11
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yorolpal "Just For Men" beard darkener and a "Decemberists" T-Shirt??
Now you've got me thinking. I have some shoe polish and several retro "Cakewalk by Roland" T-shirts. In a drawer somewhere I have some white plastic earbuds, and the grandkids have a sheet of rub-on tatoos. My pants already tend to droop stylishly, having lost 20 lb. after the surgery. Would it be going too far to superglue a skull to my earlobe? If not, remind me again, which ear says "I'm gay" and which one says "I'm badass"?
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/10/19 15:09:57
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The latest TapeOP has a story about Blackbird Studios and it's new recording academy.
The studios are already doing it.
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Re: I may need to find a job, but don't know how
2013/11/11 19:21:43
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sharke Write a dumb iPhone game full of flashing colors, preferably involving candy and/or jewels. I just read that Candy Crush is making its owners $400,000 per DAY. Per DAY.
WHAT????? That is just insane... I imagine the makers would disagree. I need a time machine... a used one cheap. Can I borrow a dollar? I wish I could write a game... I wonder if there is a Whack-a-mole game. I'm sure if I made anything someone would sue me and take it.
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