I need some advice on touch response

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2013/04/23 16:27:06 (permalink)

I need some advice on touch response

Hey guys I need some help knowing what this touch response is. Lot people say my Williams Symphony piano has poor touch response. How will this effect my playing in classical genre? 

I'm not to concern seeing as i don't got the money buy new piano but am curious know and now that I'm making lot progress in my lessons. 

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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/23 22:35:16 (permalink)
    Not to be condescending, but can you clean up your grammar a bit? As for what I think you are referring to is the hammer action on your piano, poor action would greatly affect your ability to play classical music effectively and accurately.  

    For other genres, I have read how musicians would learn to play with what ever state an instrument was in since it was all that was available. This would give a good learning curve and exercise tool for perfecting the art and technique of playing. Once the musician moved on to better made instruments (due to economics, or otherwise), their technique was mastered and playing ability was much, much easier.   So there are some pros and cons, but I don't think this scenario would apply to piano.

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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/24 05:45:25 (permalink)
    As in any music touch (or breathe) response is the ability to play with finesse on an instrument. Loud or soft passages take a certain touch on an instrument and the ability to do that or say like bend a string on a guitar a certain way determines how the music piece sounds like with classical music or any such music with emotions attached to a playing of that type of music, whether a movie theme or a classical piece of music or any piece of music to move the crowd with the music. http://www.weareroli.com/ re-inventing the keyboard. Played bad or good determine how the music sounds to the people listening. All I read about your piano on the Internet suggest that it does not have the ability to have that response unless you use the hard setting on it. On a synth, there is hardly that response and striking the keyboard usually means it goes all the way down with little effort, but in reality if you could control your fingers very accurately the notes would be softer or louder same as a piano when the keys are struck also. So the more a piece of music uses such touch response to duplicate what the creator intended or a reasonable interpretation of the way (like a classical piece) the music should be played would refer to the touch response of the instrument (or with wind instruments the breathe control a musician would use). Like with the link, I think that keyboard will be even worse to play good on because of the way they want to include that with the Seaboard new type of keyboard they hope to sell with that. But then that is what music and playing a piece of music is all about, and why some musicians are better than others when such a piece of music must be considered to have to be played correctly with the interpretation of that piece of music.

     
     
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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/24 11:50:49 (permalink)
    It took only a second to find a lot of Bad reviews. I have taught guitar for 30 years as well as a few other instruments. Number one reason people give up is playing an uninspiring instrument. 
    A student needs the instrument that makes them sound good and is easy to play. What you have there is like a guitar made out of cardboard. 
    If it came from Guitar Centre, take it back. For that kind of money ($800 ) you could have bought a Roland without the furniture.  Read this well done review, it explains what you are up against as a student using this piano. 

    http://azpianonews.blogspot.ca/2011/07/review-williams-symphony-digital-piano.html

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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/24 11:58:48 (permalink)
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    Not to be condescending, but can you clean up your grammar a bit? As for what I think you are referring to is the hammer action on your piano, poor action would greatly affect your ability to play classical music effectively and accurately.  


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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/24 15:39:37 (permalink)
    Having a nice upright grand in the house to play for almost 50 years, I find a lot of digital pianos have action that I would describe as "sluggish". Feels like you're playing under water. DOn't know what the Williams is like, but I can only assume it won't be on par with a good acoustic piano. 
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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/24 18:23:12 (permalink)
    Thanks Beagle

    No there not that good but no room nor the environment. Ether way I'm not giving up piano I have the heart for music. My piano can sound toyish that not going stop me. I look my piano up lot good reviews on it and to me sounds nice. 
    I'm just concern of touch response I adjust it to hard but I must do this "EVERY TIME" turn on the piano. That only down fall of it. I might try guitar center see what they say. Thanks
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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/24 20:44:35 (permalink)
    I called Guitar center they direct me to Williams company. They said Touch response settings can't be saved which I figured. Anyways setting piano touch to "Hard' the piano sounds feels better took me years learn that lol. Made me want open up Sonar record. lol
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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/25 02:04:58 (permalink)
    Although better is better as long as the touch doesn't ruin your enthusiasm for the instrument it should be fine.  You can always use a better softsynthvif you need to record.

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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/25 08:52:13 (permalink)
    The Williams' line is not the best, but they are quite popular in the "home study" type digital pianos.  in other words, they are bought primarily for "piano lessons."

    however, there's not a problem with using them for recording or even live applications.  the touch response is something that is lacking on the Williams line, but as you said, don't let that stop your enthusiasm!  it still plays and it still is an instrument you can use!

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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/26 16:28:15 (permalink)
    Thanks yeah is but the touch response set to hard makes piano feel and sound better. I'm please with it. 

    I'm going buy tascam dp 04 start recording using built mics. I own software but we all know how that is, You need "Tool men" computer with "sonic" speed. And money throw away. 

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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/29 09:32:36 (permalink)
    http://tascam.com/product/dp-004/

    That's certainly a good tool if you want to multi track. If all you want is a stereo recording then The Tascam DR 40 is even easier to use.

    http://tascam.com/product/dr-40/

     It can do 4 tracks as well but only in stereo pairs. I mention it because it's the only one @ $150 that has proper XLR/ 1/4" input jacks along  with the built in mikes. The rest all have 1/8" mini jacks. They also make a 2 track version for $100. 

    http://tascam.com/product/dr-07mk2/

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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/29 15:40:10 (permalink)
    Freaky! haha couple days go I decided not get portastudio and buy the dr 07 but I'm liking the d 40. Which is better, in your opinion? 
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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/29 15:43:27 (permalink)
    After doing research Dr 40 seems pretty good but Dr 07 pretty good. I do like the Dr 40 has xlr/1'4 inputs plus 4 tracks. 
    I have heard some recordings of pianos mic in "internal mics" to Dr 07 and sound really nice. So hard decide ha 
    But what comes down to is which right for me, I'm recording just me nobody else. and personally to me 
    dr 07 fits that without the extras. 

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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/04/30 20:52:08 (permalink)
    My band mate bought the 07 and I have the 40 the basic difference is the XLR/ 1/4" input and mine also has a remote jack for foot control option.  I want this for later as I am now recording all my live gigs. 

    He has done some overdubing on his and made a full song, he is not interested in computers just like you. Amazing little device, I should have bought one a long time ago. 

    I had a client in the studio overdubbing some vocals and acoustic guitar ( Martin D 18)  on some songs he working on. He had a new song and I just grabbed the Tascam and hit record,,, 30 seconds and we are recording. When I played it back he was blown away at how it sounded equal to the stuff we had recorded using a lot more gear.  


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    Re:I need some advice on touch response 2013/05/01 03:22:06 (permalink)
    I know to bad I didn't think of this 1st before I bought finale or Sonar x2 "$40 version" Anyways sounds to me I'm going enjoy it and easy use. 

    Now here question do have where should I place it to mic in my piano? In front, back or to side of me? I don't have much room place in front of me. I'm thinking about having sit left of me pointing towards me on the desk.

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