I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing

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I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing

I moved my drums into my studio and now have crammed so much into this small room that I have to tread carefully entering and exiting. LOL.  So, my goal is to get my drum chops back.  I played live to a Randy Turner track and used 5 mics running through my Zoom R24.  First time I used it to record live drums after owning it for a number of years.
 
I had a couple of passes.  No punch in or edits.  I left it raw.  
I will add some tom mics next time but my tool box is pretty lean on the mic selection to say the least.  Anyway, it is my Mom's birthday today though she is now in Heaven.  She was so supportive of my drumming as I grew up.  Driving me to drum lessons, taking me to gigs, making sure my homework was done and all.  I love her for it.  This little jazz thing is for her even if not all mine.
 
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    daryl1968
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 10:34:58 (permalink)
    very nice Jimmy - sounds like you had fun doing it too.
    A fitting tribute
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 10:54:57 (permalink)
    Nicely present up-front sounds from the 3 close mics.  You've got plenty more scope there to back those off to pick the toms up plenty more for a nice roomy live sound without anymore mics, especially if you were to use some lighter gauge metals in that space.  Very nicely recorded though.
     
    It's a good sound, and kudos to your Mum there she did a good job of encouraging some pretty good chops too.
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 11:42:59 (permalink)
    Hi Jimmy, nice and groovin'. Was expecting more drums and less guitar ; )
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 16:50:21 (permalink)
    Great drumming Rimshot! You pulled off a lot of very technical fills and turn-arounds, especially considering only 2 takes and no punch ins.  You've obviously still got plenty of chops left. :)
     
    I think the mics and drum mix are fine too.  Very jazzy!

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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 20:56:43 (permalink)
    Hi Daryl - thanks for the nice comment.  I did have fun.  I should have set up my drums a long time ago.  I guess I was so enthralled with the DAW I forgot my first love.  Anyway, I am commin' back!  
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 21:01:50 (permalink)
    Hi Jonbouy, 
    Thanks for the listen and nice words.  I will experiment in this room and see where to place the mics to pick you the toms.  It's only a 10x11 room so I am very limited.  For my very humble mic selection, I used Behringer XM8500's on the hh and kcik.  I used an SM58 on the snare and a Behringer B1 overhead and a Shure SH55 as a side mic facing where the floor tom would be if I can get it in here!  I only used one cymbal which is my 20" Zildjian ride that I used in hundreds of of studio dates.  
     
    Anyway, I am so glad you liked the sound.  I hope to keep at it for a while.  I would like to play live on other's tunes.  Take care. 
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 21:03:21 (permalink)
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    Hi Jimmy, nice and groovin'. Was expecting more drums and less guitar ; )
     
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    Hey Rik, 
    I am really liking your music posts these days.  Let me know if you needs some real live drums on one of your projects.  I can play most styles.  Thanks for the listen.
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 21:07:54 (permalink)
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    Great drumming Rimshot! You pulled off a lot of very technical fills and turn-arounds, especially considering only 2 takes and no punch ins.  You've obviously still got plenty of chops left. :)
     
    I think the mics and drum mix are fine too.  Very jazzy!




    Hi Walt, 
    Much thanks for the good words.  There were some very technical fills and as I listen back, it sounds pretty good to me.  I had no problem keeping in time.  A long time ago I was a studio drummer and back then, some producers would take a timer and count the beats withing 15 seconds then wait a few and do it again and compare.  If the totals did not match, they knew there was a tempo issue.  When I played on Jimmy Messina's first album after Loggins & Messina called "One More Mile", he would do that.  Those were the days before digital anything.  BTW, Jimmy Messina is one great musician with a huge heart.  I loved working with him.
     
    Thanks again.
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/14 21:11:58 (permalink)
    Hi Jimmy,
    Good sound and some great playing.
    You still got it!!!!
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/15 09:11:23 (permalink)
    Much thanks Freddy!  
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/16 00:22:14 (permalink)
    Yes, very nice playing and a lovely tribute to a mom who cared and gave so much. She would surely be proud of her son's drum playing. Very lovely and jazzy sound. Nice one!
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/16 07:41:44 (permalink)
    Great playing and nice jazzy tonality.
     
    It sounds like the other players were listening to you while they did their thing. :-)


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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/16 08:14:57 (permalink)
    One of my buddies played drums..... I think that he was influenced by his dad who was a truck driver..... but his dad really liked jazz and big band music. I can recall more than one time being forced to set and listen to music with him. Understand that at the time we were into Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, etc.... the rockers of the day....
    One of his favorite musicians was Gene Kruppa... what an amazing drummer. I did pick up an admiration for the music he listened to the more I heard it.
     
    I enjoyed your playing on this..... but I do think you should have perhaps bumped them a few db or maybe eq'd them a tad brighter....They do tend to be covered up by the guitar...

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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/16 09:17:54 (permalink)
    John - thank you for the listen and sentiment.  It's hard to know how much a parent gives until you become one yourself.  
     
    All the best. 
     
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    Great playing and nice jazzy tonality.
     
    It sounds like the other players were listening to you while they did their thing. :-)




    Hi Mike, I am glad you liked it.  That was an interesting comment about leading.  I my old jamming days, as a drummer I did lead quite a bit.  I could bring the dynamics down or build them up - change beats and all and felt comfortable doing it.  My buddies would just go right with it.  I thought about this just recently and now you brought it up.  You have a keen sense of music Mr. McCue!
     
    Thanks much.
     
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    One of my buddies played drums..... I think that he was influenced by his dad who was a truck driver..... but his dad really liked jazz and big band music. I can recall more than one time being forced to set and listen to music with him. Understand that at the time we were into Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, etc.... the rockers of the day....
    One of his favorite musicians was Gene Kruppa... what an amazing drummer. I did pick up an admiration for the music he listened to the more I heard it.
     
    I enjoyed your playing on this..... but I do think you should have perhaps bumped them a few db or maybe eq'd them a tad brighter....They do tend to be covered up by the guitar...





    Hi Herb, 
     
    I appreciate your story and listen.  Gene was an awesome drummer and showman.  He really brought forth the drums as a featured instrument and he had a great energy when playing.  For my mix, I did it pretty fast so you may be right about the drum level.  I tried to emulate standard cool jazz styles.  This was fun and I am happy you liked it.
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/16 13:47:28 (permalink)
    Kudos you you on a nice jazz track well played and orchestrated!

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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/16 19:07:41 (permalink)
    Hello Jimmy
    I still hear the chops of a great drummer.  Some really nice sounding drum tracks on my end.  Hey Jimmy are you the drummer from Sue Saad and the Next.  If so this is a long way from the New Wave chops of the 80's.  GREAT JOB!
     
     
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    Re: I played live drums to a "jazz without drums" YouTube thing 2013/10/17 09:40:35 (permalink)
    Starise
    Kudos you you on a nice jazz track well played and orchestrated!




    Thanks Tim.  I only played drums to the drumless jam but it was good to do.
     
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    Hello Jimmy
    I still hear the chops of a great drummer.  Some really nice sounding drum tracks on my end.  Hey Jimmy are you the drummer from Sue Saad and the Next.  If so this is a long way from the New Wave chops of the 80's.  GREAT JOB!
     
     
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    Hey Kev, 
     
    I am the drummer from Sue Saad & The Next.  I had to hold back a lot back then because of the nature of songs we wrote.  In fact, our songs were much less mature than our musicianship but we got a record deal!  I wish you could have heard our unreleased 2nd album.  We were much stronger and had a number of guest performers on it including Paul Stanley and Vinny Cassano (ex KISS lead guitarist) from KISS, David Foster, and more.  
     
    Thanks for the nice comments Kev.  
     
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