I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 (Modwheel reset presets) ***Solved***

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2017/04/10 08:12:43 (permalink)

I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 (Modwheel reset presets) ***Solved***

Does anyone else have this problem...

When the Zeta+ 2 UI is open I get a weird glitch using the modwheel on my keyboard (Novation SL MKII). When I puch the modwheel fully the audio stops briefly and all changes I made to the preset are reset to the last saved version. However, which the UI closed every thing works just fine. I used MIDI OX to see what the keyboard sends on modwheel changes but every thing looks normal.

Sorry if this issue already is reported but I couldn't find any similar post
post edited by Pan65 - 2017/04/14 10:31:47
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    BobF
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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/10 22:00:12 (permalink)
    Is there a specific program that you're having troubles with?  I just tested in SONAR Plat and Studio One 3 both.  No problems with pitch or mod from my FA 06
     
     

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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/10 22:20:06 (permalink)
    Ah, yes I forgot to mention that. I'm using Sonar Platinum on a Windows 10 desktop. I had this issue for a while and I don't remember when it started. Maybe it's always been there.
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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/10 22:46:25 (permalink)
    I'm also on a win10 desktop.  No problems here.
     
    Which controller are you using?  Is there another piece of hardware you can try?

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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/11 05:58:16 (permalink)
    I'm using a Novation SL MKII. I'll see if I can borrow another keyboard from a friend, but it will take a while.
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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/12 14:25:37 (permalink)
    Can you record MIDI track with such effect?
    Then you can check if just playing this MIDI track produce the same problem. If yes, please post this file (better as Sonar project with this one track, saving as a MIDI file can be not precise) so other can confirm.

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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/13 08:50:01 (permalink)
    Good Idea Azslow3, here's the file...
    https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am_wZqKT77JuikU6-hPZK8wWW7Lh
     
    It's just a couple of sloppy chords with modweel action. On my system it runs fine with Zeta's UI closed, but when I open the UI I get the same wierd results as described in the first post. If you get it to try changing some parameter in the preset and see what happens.
     
    Oh, I checked the event list and there's nothing but notes and modwheel action recorded.
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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/13 12:16:54 (permalink)
    Sorry, I can not reproduce under latest platinum, latest z3ta, latest win10 (and i7).
     
    Since you mention you have short audio drop, open Windows resource monitor and watch CPU monitor (or change Sonar buil-in monitor to total system mode). When you play, do you see a heavy load on CPU? Is there difference between GUI open and  GUI Closed?
     
    There was several reports before that Z3TA reset settings under different conditions. I can not remember we have found the way to reproduce. And till that is done, there is no chance it is fixed... So please do not give up.

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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/13 16:20:44 (permalink)
    Very strange, only difference in my setup is the CPU. My desktop is based on a 8 core AMD processor, I'm not at home right now so I can't check which one. So the issue only occur when the GUI is open and it seems it's not related to my MIDI controller since it happened even during playback.

    So maybe it is system related? I'll write down my specs when I get home.
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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/13 22:18:37 (permalink)
    Since it happens with audio glitch, on powerful CPU and only when GUI is open... GPU and graphic settings can be the reason (do you use several monitors? magnifications? etc.).
    Also do you have some other computer where you can try to reproduce the effect? It does not matter how powerful it is, in case you have 2 systems in hands, one running fine and other not, it can be simpler to understand what is wrong.
     
     

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    Re: I think I found a bug in zeta+ 2 2017/04/14 10:29:48 (permalink)
    Hello Azslow3!
    Thanks for all your help but I think I cracked this one now. So I was thinking that this little bugger acted more like a feature than a bug, so I launched the standalone version to ensure Sonar wasn’t doing something under the hood. Well I got the same behavior in the standalone version but it also added a error message to the equation.  The message complained about not finding any disk in my J: drive (which is one of my USB ports), so I thought…  “What could Zeta possibly be searching for?”. Well the obvious answer was PRESETS. So I right clicked one of the preset selectors and there it was, my version of Zeta had Next/Previous Preset mapped to CC1 (Modwheel). I removed the mapping and everything works just fine now.
     
    But that leaves us with another question. Why is zeta looking for presets on my USB ports? Isn’t it supposed to look in /Cakewalk Content/Z3TA+ 2/Programs. Another question is… Is it possible to restrict Zeta to only look for presets in a certain place. I looked everywhere but couldn’t find any .ini file and there’s no options in the GUI either.
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