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I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops...
...is nice.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 15:42:57
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That's pretty cool! Just a heads up... If the strings were low enough to pop on contact with the metal pole pieces than it is also likely that they are low enough for the magnetic field to "pull" the strings inwards towards the pick ups a slight bit. That can adversely effect the sustain and the tuning of the sustain. If it's possible, would you consider lowering the pickups as another solution? best regards, mike
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 15:45:23
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oh and BTW, I suggest that you put the electrical tape on the pickup and not the string. It is transparent to the pickup's function and it will not dampen the string vibration.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 15:53:32
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Yeah... I'd put the tape on the pickup...if you absolutely have to have it. Placed on the string, it will affect the vibration and could also get in the way of your fingers. Nothing like the gooey sticky stuff that is on the back of electrical tape to funk up the string. Stuck to the pickup, the gooey stuff will get on that too..... not good. Working in the electrical biz, I tend to use a bunch of electrical tape... from the cheap stuff to the good stuff. I have used it plenty of times to wrap screwdriver shafts and tool handles, and trust me when I say, that gooey stuff will eventually cause a real mess. A better opting is as was suggested....lower the pickup a bit. Or learn and use a better hand/finger technique.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/07/15 15:55:27
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 15:54:06
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Hi, Mike. I was actually moaning about this a couple weeks ago to the forum. SOMEBODY broke the housing on the pickup so I can't lower it on the low E side. I am ever so pissed about it and can't afford to replace it right now. I raised the action up but it wasn't enough. I was actually going to put the tape right on the pick up as you mentioned but I opted to put it on the strings instead. It actually gives it a very nice soft tone to the sound which is great for the blues track I'm currently working on. However when I REALLY dig in I'm still getting a the odd pop because there is still just a little bit of the strings exposed above the pickups so I might go ahead and put a couple of strips above and below the poles to eliminate that as well. When I use a pick they aren't really any problems so I may remove the tape on the strings for heavier stuff like my metal tunes to get more attack. Just thought I'd share with the forum. :-)
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 15:57:15
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@guitarhacker... Actually I was just going to avoid plucking where the tape is (it covers very little surface area) but the top of the tape is super smooth and I'm not getting any residue (yet) so it's actually kind of nice to pluck on the taped part. Gives the tone an even smoother sound too. I'm kind of digging it.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 15:58:11
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note: when I first started to read the topic..... my mind saw it as.... I wrapped my bass strings with BECON!!!! what a disappointment to see it was electrical tape....certainly not as delicious.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 15:58:25
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Hi Beepster, Thanks for elaborating. It's interesting to hear how you can sense the difference in tone by doing this. Cool stuff. :-) best, mike
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 16:03:04
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Yeah... you know how finicky and hairy bass can be on recordings sometimes (especially for a guitar player such as myself). This seems to reign it in a little. I want to avoid a lot of limiting/compression if at all possible because I think that really takes away from a performance. Also... BECAN!!!
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 16:14:24
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I've seen it done plenty of times Beep... especially in the studio. There are many ways of 'damping' the strings I've seen employed to give a duller tone richer in subs, most common way I've seen it done is by the bridge cover being packed with foam, or foam just being layered beneath the strings to kill off some resonance. The 'problem' if you can call it a problem isn't to do with the pups, or technique at all it's in the resonance inherent in the strings, flatwounds can help but sometimes I've noticed that either the engineer or bassist has wanted an even 'flatter' tone with really shortened sustain to work with. Sometimes I've seen it done actually where the pick is striking to keep the picked tone yet softening the attack still. Whatever gets you where you want to go I say. Like you say, instead of having to alter the set up of the guitar pup height and stuff, it's easy enough to reverse when you want the brightness and attack back. If there was a 'proper' way to do stuff we'd all be sounding the same you can do all sorts of stuff when nobody is looking to make stuff sound edgy, different and original then people will be asking how you did it!
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/07/15 16:23:09
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 16:26:21
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@jonbouy... As I was doing it I started having vague recollections of reading about this technique. One other nice side benefit is you know how sometimes on bass, especially on the low E, when you play a big open note the string will start to vibrate out of control and start contacting the the frets causing a little buzz or unwanted harmonics... or even wobble pitch? This seems to help reduce that as well. Still wish that assclown hadn't broke my pick up though. So annoying. The thing was covered in shmootz too... even blood. I essentially had to sterilize the whole guitar. It was gross.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 17:27:02
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Did you wrap each string individually?
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 17:33:04
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I've been assuming you were using the tape as an electrical insulator. Was your primary interest actually in dampening the sting vibration? best, mike
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 17:40:48
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I wrapped my bass player with duct tape. That eliminated lots of noises.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 17:53:08
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@mike... That was the original purpose but it ended up having all sorts of neato side benefits I did not anticipate. Like I said... is nice. :-) @old55 and craig... Ya'll sillay. ;-p And where the heck is bapu? I figured he'd be all over this... unless he's being muffled with duct tape. *eyeballs craig with suspicion side glances*
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 17:54:37
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 18:15:06
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Beepster And where the heck is bapu? I figured he'd be all over this... unless he's being muffled with duct tape. *eyeballs craig with su****ion side glances*
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 18:28:45
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poor bapu... nobody understands... :-(
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 19:53:54
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craigb I wrapped my bass player with duct tape. That eliminated lots of noises. Heck, Tony Levin is known to have used ... diapers!
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 20:20:42
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Just got up from an overdue nap. Never heard of any of these tape on a bass techniques. I do recall in the 50/60's the foam under the bridge (my first recollection was the bass player Nick Massi of the Four Seasons). Under most typical (not Speebsters) conditions, pops are due to technique, or so I've been told (given I have no technique).
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 20:30:01
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Naw... even with an ideal set up I think I'd be getting the occasional bad pop (pickup... not intentional fretboard pop). I'm used to playing with a pick so sometimes when I get a little over excited with my fingy's I hamfist my way into the pickup. I'll learn though. My index and middle fingertips are quite raw at the moment. lolzerz...
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 20:34:48
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Funny, I never play with anything but my index finger. It's one of the reasons I'm no Jaco Pastorious or Stanley Clarke. Heck, I'm barely a Bapu.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 20:39:07
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It sort of reminds me of the tea towel drum thing. Since a couple of drum libraries have come out featuring this what they call 'vintage technique' that was the 'trade secret' of many studio engineers, I've even seen discussions of whether towelling or Irish linen has the best tonal qualities to achieve this effect....lol I always thought the idea was to use whatever you have at your disposal to get the thing you're after down, now you need a certificate of approval from Berklee and some planning permission from the experts before you are allowed to get creative now it can seem. Man, I've even had to run out of a recording down to the nearest radio shack to get a £5 PZM mic so the engineer could play out my last take into a public toilet block and have me sit and record the 'room' there because it wasn't sounding right from the studio mics. I had to time it right so we could play out the entire track without somebody flushing from the next cubicle...lol. We weren't worried about phase issues and stuff, somebody taking a dump next-door was far more of a concern. I wonder if I should share that tip in the Techniques forum?...I'd probably get ducked for promoting some kind of witchcraft...
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/07/15 20:43:57
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 20:43:18
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You nailed it, Jonbouy and that is why I don't believe the hype. Some of my favorite recordings (of other artists) were held together with duct tape, towels, bad mics and a little elbow grease. We have it good these days... REAL good.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 20:48:51
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 21:53:29
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Looks like your loss buddy.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 22:03:49
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That was a joke. I've never met Tal nor do I have any plans to divorce her. I just like her playing.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 22:11:07
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Beepster That was a joke. I've never met Tal nor do I have any plans to divorce her. I just like her playing. That's a nice body shape, is it a standard J bass?
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 22:15:55
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I don't see any apparent modifications but you can never tell these days.
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Re:I wrapped my bass strings with electrical tape just above the pickups to eliminate pops
2012/07/15 22:35:34
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Beepster That was a joke. I've never met Tal nor do I have any plans to divorce her. I just like her playing. I knew that.  I thought she was hot both musically and as a woman and wanted to lick her...fingers.
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