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I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
long time since we saw any new prochannel modules.. I want more! (being able to creating PC-fx chains is nice, but it's not the same.. no meters or graphical feedback and so on) Come on Cakwalk! Give us more! :) Pro Channel's got so much potential and I'm a bit suprised that it was so long since we saw something new released to this...! What new PC-modules whould you guys like to see? - First of all what I'd really like to see is an update for the quad-eq. It would be nice to be able to switch on and off a spectrum overlay for instant visual feedback of the signal.
- A nice tape emulation would be nice too, I think.. (We've got the Console Emulator. Why not continue this chain?)
- A nice little delay also would be nice, I think.. :)
- And it would be REALLY cool if we could get a competent frequency analyzer! :) (maybe even make the visual feedback vertical to give a more detailed view of the signal.. kind of like the pic below .. and maybe be able to switch to a mixed left-right-view that uses the whole horisontal space for the dB-axis. (sorry about the ugly example.. I just got the idea and threw something together just to show what I mean before I have to leave..)
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 04:55:15
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I agree. I'm learning to love the prochan more and more for its speed. Presets are going to save me SO much time to to get my usual snare, kick, vox, guitar etc chain primed and ready to tweak. I've got 9 songs soon to be ready for mixing and I can't wait to get started! I love your ideas. Especially on the delay. I didn't think about that. That would be fantastic. My vote (which I've been saying for a while) is for a Pultec emulation. I love the sound of that eq on drums and bass. I honestly think they know they are onto something here and we are going to keep seeing more and more cool stuff popping up. I'm sure we'll see some pleasant surprises in the next installment and I can't wait to see what they are! Keep the ideas coming! It's like dreaming about what you'd do if you won the lotto :)
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 08:30:57
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 08:35:30
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I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules. They seem so tiny compared to the stuff that has a full size VST window. I really like the newer VSTs with the scalable windows... so I can make the gui as large as I want. Maybe someday Pro Channel modules can pop open in their own full size window when you double click on a "full size" button or something like that. best regards, mike
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 09:21:35
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I'd like to see more, too. I love the tape emulation idea especially, loptec. And + lots to the Pultec, too. I like the layout of he current modules as they are, and have no problem seeing them. If you struggle to see them on a 30" and 2560 x 1600 pixels monitor, Mike, then I think it must be a pebkac error. Perhaps have an eye test. But then again, you don't use the X series, just 8.5 legacy, and didn't install all the modules when you did. I love an informed, unbiased opinion.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 09:35:43
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Me too, and I think we will. They seem to have comitted to the Pro Channel so surely more are coming. @ Mike... this should help
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 09:48:15
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 10:04:51
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I fully understand where people are coming from about the remarks from Mike. But he does have a point as far as the Quad EQ is concerned. It could use a pop out grid that was enlarged for more accurate adjustment. A good idea is a good idea no matter where it comes from.
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 10:28:17
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All these are good ideas - some kind of microscope function for the eq esp. would be nice. It does make you use your ears more, but I still like to see stuff. Cake has done a good job starting. The FET is good, the eq is very good and the opto comp is great. The ssl channel is ok tho I don't use it much, but the ssl bus comp is very good. The rest of the marketable modules are a pultec and maybe neve eq. I'm not really into digital saturation whether channel or tape. To my ears, they just cloud up the image, but each to his own. However, Cake should leverage Roland for time-based effects, which is the weak sister so far. My Nomad Blue Tubes is getting glitching at 32 bits, and the Sonitus is long in the tooth, too. A chorus/echo module would be uber cool. vocoder. Stuff like that. The local rep here was begging Cake/Roland for that, and we users seconded him. Hopefully they are working on it. It would be a sure-fire seller, esp. if a vst version was for sale too. @
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 10:33:02
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I guess if I want a more detailed graph, I use a different EQ, perhaps in an PC FX chain. I always thought of the quad curve as more like the EQ on a large format desk, which had no graph at all. The little one was just a bonus. I have nothing against a pop out grid, though. Mike could have his pop out VSTs if he used The PC FX Chains, but as he didn't buy X2, and only wishes to make illinformed swipes at the X series, perhaps he wouldn't know that.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 10:38:18
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jb101 : "I like the layout of he current modules as they are, and have no problem seeing them. If you struggle to see them on a 30" and 2560 x 1600 pixels monitor, Mike, then I think it must be a pebkac error. Perhaps have an eye test. "
For what it's worth, I also use a 30" monitor at 2560 x 1600 and find the PC modules, especially the EQ, to be way too small. The words that are printed vertically are at the extreme limit of what I can decifer from a couple of feet away (not that I really need to read them). I'd prefer a much larger frequency graph.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 10:42:23
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Hi jb101, I have vision issues, people in my family go blind. Are there any other kind thoughts you'd like to share? best regards, mike
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 10:52:48
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Not to sound like a crank but I'd like to see some significant discounts for those of us who paid premium prices for Sonar. There isn't much reason for the Concrete Limiter to be as expensive as it is when we've paid substantial sums of money to get Pro Channel. The lack of a high quality limiter in the suite was a little disappointing. If you've given Cakewalk more than $500 in recent years seems they could let these things go for a little less. I'd pay $20-30 for the CL right now but as it is I think I'd be better of saving up and snagging Ozone. JMO. I do like the idea of a PC freq analyzer though. Good call.
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 10:54:10
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jb101 I guess if I want a more detailed graph, I use a different EQ, perhaps in an PC FX chain. I always thought of the quad curve as more like the EQ on a large format desk, which had no graph at all. The little one was just a bonus. I have nothing against a pop out grid, though. Mike could have his pop out VSTs if he used The PC FX Chains, but as he didn't buy X2, and only wishes to make illinformed swipes at the X series, perhaps he wouldn't know that. I am in agreement with you. I also was one of the first to ask for a pop out grid for the EQ when X1 first came out. So I stick by that idea. I understand about Mike and his campaign to attack the X series. Not that I understand why. Or shall I say to what end? CW is not going to junk the work they have done to please Mike. It is highly unlikely that Sonar will revert back to an 8.5 GUI. So I see his continuing diatribe on X1/X2 as pointless. Further many like the direction CW has taken and it is confounding why one person finds it useful to make a negative remark about it whenever he can. I just don't get it. It is also down right irritating when a post of his is made with those bashes. Perhaps Mike will find the need to move on.
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 11:15:44
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I fully understand where people are coming from about the remarks from Mike. Agree... I think Mike knows I am kidding around, I hope so. It is good of you to be an advocate. J
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 11:25:08
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mike_mccue Hi jb101, I have vision issues, people in my family go blind. Are there any other kind thoughts you'd like to share? best regards, mike That is really unfair Mike. You should have made that clear when you posted about your wish to have a better GUI. JB and myself could not know that you have that issue. Springing it on us now is to me a bit self serving. Besides you know that JB is a very thoughtful and kind member. If he had known your situation I am sure he would not have made any comment. Myself, I probably would have. I am not nice or kind.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 11:54:30
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I too would like to see a pop-out for the Quad-Curve EQ...with a spectrum analyser behind the curve (please). Agree on the Pultec and reverb/delay. Regards,
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 12:02:13
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I'm up for a spectrum analyser, Pultec type EQ, and delay. I also take the point about larger pop out graphics being a good idea. The convenience of having them follow in focus track far out weighs that minor drawback though (for me) The PC and track following ability is what the VST standard should have had in the first place. A vast improvement on the existing VST concept IMHO and that's in its third incarnation.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 12:11:50
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+ 1 on the spectrum analyzer. They ought to have put that in the EQ. How about a pop out larger EQ grid with a background spectrum?
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 12:25:03
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I would also like the tape saturation module. Those of you who have never used one should get a demo if you can and run a finished master thru it to see what they can do to certain styles of music. I grew up with analog and used 5 decks in my studio in Seattle. Most good plug ins are a very affordable alternative to having to own a reel deck. Nomad Factory has a module called Magnetic II for $130.00 It has settings for 5 different tape decks, 2 tape sizes, and 2 speeds. However, since I still have 2 reel decks, I run most of my songs and some spoken word recordings thru them to get the "sound".
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 12:28:37
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I think a combined EQ/analyzer would be very useful.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 15:01:59
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+1 to the larger Quad Curve pop-out window with analyzer. That would be my number one request too. My second would be a simplified Quad Curve with just high and low-pass filters. My third is (and has been) a PC version of Channel Tools. After that? Tape emulation, Pultec EQ, Roland time-based FX, and whatever else CW can dream up.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 16:59:42
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Some great ideas on show here, I can't disagree with any of them. I'd love to see a PC version of Channel Tools - it finds it's way onto an awfully large number of tracks in my productions.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 17:31:00
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@ Mike - I'm sorry to hear of your issues, if they are true, but it kind of proves my point. However tragic they are, it's not the PC modules fault. Isn't your comment referred to as passive-aggressive? It is obvious that I would not know about your problems, if they are indeed real. You show your true colours on a daily basis. Bullying, sarcastic, rude - but quick to try this passive-aggressive "I'm the victim" childish nonsense. Please grow up.
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Re:I'd like to be able to see the Pro Channel modules.
2013/05/17 17:40:49
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Bristol_Jonesey I'd love to see a PC version of Channel Tools - +1
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 18:30:36
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Although my favorite would be a Pultec or Tape Emulation, has anyone mentioned a Fairchild 670? Mind you, I seem to have a quite a few compressors already, so something else might be nice. I like the sound of a Pultec and Tape Sat on drums, so either or both the above would be nice.
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 18:45:35
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I like the spectrum eq mockup loptec. Some seriously talented guys on this forum. For my part I would like lots of gadgets- eg: deeser, delays, transient designer, spectrum analyst, tilt eq like softube tonelux, nobel eq and old timer comp from PSP, tape machine etc It's been a while though... hope the Cakewalk team are still interested in the future of ProChannel.
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/17 19:26:40
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Another thing I would really like as a PC module would be a real nice VU Meter - peak/rms with Katz system scale/capability and lots of routing options. A more stripped version of the blue cat audio DP Meter plugin - http://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_DPeakMeterPro/ (Actually this might be one I need to pick up as a regular plugin.)
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/18 00:38:03
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What about the Softube bundle for the ProChannel? Active eq FET Compressor Focusing eq Passive eq TSAR-1R reverb
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Re:I'd like to see more new ProChannel Modules..!
2013/05/18 04:34:58
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Hi all,i disagree for analyzer..there are many good free plug ins for this,but i would like to see a prestigious parternship with Summit Audio,Distressor,Neve,Studer,Ampex,Tonelux,Tubetech,DBX,and Roland (Space Echo)....I definitely would buy these Pro Channel plugs.Best
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