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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 13:03:22
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Zo Ok here's simple facts : Day one : install of X3 first contact : yes beautyfull Insert of maschine multi outs : woah super slow !!! ok i check my audio setting : no asio infos (FIRST CONFIRMED BUG) no big deal i keep creating a tracks i insert Alchemy , play some , play with solo : (SECOND CONFIRMED BUG) ok let's try new plugins , oups my plugins layout , let's choose all plugins , done ...mmm great new plugins , let's go back to my layout : no way (THIRD CONFIRMED BUG) i stop here (i could go on) ....so my question is simple : DO YOU guyz really think those are UNSPOTABLE BUGS !!! just a simple regular workflow would have been able to notice that after less than 5 min !!! Those are bugs and confirmed , NO MATTER the SYSTEM .......THOSE ARE BUGS on my systems and others system ....isn't that clear !!!! To answer Steven : no bug reports since it have been confirmed and so escaladated !! Beta team ? i have been ask to be part , i sent the agreement , never had a reply;....no big deal .....but as i'm incompetent and have ****ty systems i don't see why ....i would be no help for them ...(if i read you guyz well) ... I'm out , have fun , and we will say wassup when the bug list will be launched , and i will then love to hear from you guyz your conclusions about how X3 final candidate (actually B) was so solid No matter what i say , you guyz knows it better , so track of day is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VoEnhej5Iw
This is such a garbled post I think I am going to regret jumping in. I don't have Maschine - so can't help there. But what is your issue with Alchemy, and your comment that you "play some , play with solo : (SECOND CONFIRMED BUG)" - ? I am using Alchemy all the time and haven't come across an issue at all. Solo seems to work fine. If you could take the time to lay out an actual workflow, maybe someone else would be able to reproduce the problem. I read some of your early posts on X3 Zo, and honestly it seemed to me that much of the problem seemed to stem from your early registry customizations that had been migrated from earlier versions of SONAR. Honestly calling CONFIRMED BUGS in caps without providing a workflow for others to test it or to see it for themselves isn't going to resolve anything. I know you are a longtime SONAR user - not a troll - but your posts sure come across that way. Have you done a full clean install of X3, with a full reset of all of your plugins? Because I don't think anyone can accept your system as being representative of the user base until that is done.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 13:25:16
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☄ Helpfulby hockeyjx 2013/10/31 21:59:05
Zo Ok here's simple facts : Day one : install of X3 first contact : yes beautyfull Insert of maschine multi outs : woah super slow !!! ok i check my audio setting : no asio infos (FIRST CONFIRMED BUG) no big deal i keep creating a tracks i insert Alchemy , play some , play with solo : (SECOND CONFIRMED BUG) ok let's try new plugins , oups my plugins layout , let's choose all plugins , done ...mmm great new plugins , let's go back to my layout : no way (THIRD CONFIRMED BUG) i stop here (i could go on) ....so my question is simple : DO YOU guyz really think those are UNSPOTABLE BUGS !!! just a simple regular workflow would have been able to notice that after less than 5 min !!! Those are bugs and confirmed , NO MATTER the SYSTEM .......THOSE ARE BUGS on my systems and others system ....isn't that clear !!!! To answer Steven : no bug reports since it have been confirmed and so escaladated !! Beta team ? i have been ask to be part , i sent the agreement , never had a reply;....no big deal .....but as i'm incompetent and have ****ty systems i don't see why ....i would be no help for them ...(if i read you guyz well) ... I'm out , have fun , and we will say wassup when the bug list will be launched , and i will then love to hear from you guyz your conclusions about how X3 final candidate (actually B) was so solid No matter what i say , you guyz knows it better , so track of day is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VoEnhej5Iw
simple question That post was 3 weeks ago - Have you submitted any bug reports on your issues? Have you tried contacting tech support?
Response of which was a blast of redirection, nonsense and obfuscation, when your answer to both then is NO. You have no interest in actually solving your problem if it involves any work other than ranting on a forum. In your recent mass of postings - how many of them (if any) did you actually try to help someone? or contribute something positive? Instead open any recent post complaining of anything and there are your posts with your share of negativism whether it relates or not. How is this not being a troll? When anyone questions you on anything you rarely if ever directly answer the question (if you answer it at all) instead you post that you're a teacher a school in France, I stress test systems, etc.. Good for you, but that doesn't mean much, sorry. You may be god's gift to the PC world - but we have no way of evaluating the truth of your claims nor are they really relevant; quite a few of the users here on this forum are members of the technical elite but you don't see them posting over & over again I'm a tech god, I'm a tech god, etc. Instead when they have issues they try to work the system (which includes filing bug reports, feature suggestions & contacting tech support when necessary) to bring change instead of non-stop whining. While I am a 'FAN BOY', I am not a fanatic. I just have a low tolerance for whiners, especially when it looks like to some degree their issues may be self inflicted. We all want to see you succeed - but really, if you won't contact support even after they've publicly asked you to, then whose fault is it that you're having problems?
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 13:39:23
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"but i feel it and i see it !!"@Zo There are a zillion lines of code all hooking into programming libraries and through OS/drivers all over the place when it comes to this sort of software.... Sadly just "feeling" it happens to be that way is only that, a feeling... "... bugs are so obvious that the beta testers should be punished !!lol "zzzz. Actually the beta testers are not developers of the software, and developers do not do everything a beta tester tells them to do. There is only a finite amount of time to develop software... Software development IS complicated and is a massive task, and this is how most do it nowadays: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development Can you guyz please may have a small doubt and think a Guy (with a master degree in computing , teaching also (not only) computing at the SAE , Validating tons of computer after testing those , lobbying people to choose workstations for years instead of best buy craps and macs nonsense ,posting actually stress test , lobbying Notebook check to intrroduce DPC latency results in tests , beta testing and helping several brands to dev and integrate , making a lot of Youtube Sonar based videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/ZozillaThaGreat) ect .....) MIGHT have decent systems !!!However you are not a software developer or a member of a QA team. You may be an experienced pilot but you didn't make the plane.... :) "honestly calling CONFIRMED BUGS in caps without providing a workflow for others to test it or to see it for themselves isn't going to resolve anything." Exactly right . Like: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelinesAs an experienced person you should know this. Cheers and peace out ! Alex
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 18:43:10
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Paul P
JonD X3 is a solid release for being a major rewrite.
Are you sure about this ? I would have thought a major rewrite would have fixed things that've been around for a while, like the metronome/loop bug.
As someone who's owned most versions of Sonar since "2" (Not "X2", but "2" from about a decade ago), I'd say absolutely "yes". Notice that I didn't say a "perfect" release (because there's no such thing), but a "solid" one. BTW, the metronome/loop "bug" you mention doesn't seem to be reproducible by many users. Of course, you already know this because it was pointed out to you in another thread... Amazing how many non-X3 users (still on previous versions) are so quick to comment on X3 behavior that they haven't seen or experienced themselves.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 19:16:03
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All the bugs i noticed have been confirmed and videos made on .... Thks for teaching me what's is coding (i only know how to code : C++ , java , Versant , Ada , Cobol , SQl ....ect )) and thks for warning me that i'm the pilot not the plane maker thks .... but at the end he has the ability to say what's has to be modified or not ...and the makers CORRECT things ...this is all we do here ..... It's like have insulted some Holy , just crazy !!! .....ok you giuyz didn't catch my joke on beta tester ...i apologyse for that ...the rest i assumme 200 % Have fun .. YES X3 IS ROCK SOLID BUG FREE and I SUCKKKK .... is that ok for you guyz ? Coool
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 19:38:29
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Zo ....if not , bugs are so obvious that the beta testers should be punished !!lol
I have tested SW before. As a tester, you can report it till your blue in the face! Don't mean they will fix it!
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 19:43:41
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Next time Zo stick with the specifics. I suggest starting ONE thread per bug and give CLEAR steps to repro and be prepared to discuss it and try stuff that people may suggest. Now if you were writing this in the X2 days I'd cut you some slack. However X3 is barely out and we've had 3 substantial patches already a rant followed by your CV is gonna make you look bad... Even when your comments may or may not be valid.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 20:48:08
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Solo BUG : i posted my report 3 weeks ago " -- Track Solo Button would get out of sync with Soft Synths (CWBRN-13919) -- " in update ! Asio bug : 3 weeks ago same : " -- ASIO Buffer Size was not displayed in Driver Settings dialog --" in update !! Plugin layout bug posted weeks ago " Fixed a Plugin Manager version mismatch " i guess i can be solved here and /or with "Fixed a variety of issues related to large plugin counts" gotta check /.... http://s638.photobucket.com/user/zoakajeezo/media/SonarX3pluginmanagementissue.mp4.html So a simple FACT : NOPE , not my system related : case closed other bug i noticed about plugin docking , automation , track scroll ect ....have been noticed AS USUAL CAKE did a great job ......but i'm pretty sure this could have been X3A !!!! This is why i'm kinda rude ...that's alll ....time to dll and test .... if it's solid i will be the first to congrats anyway !! if not , i will stay away from here fo real !
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 20:49:46
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CakeAlexS Next time Zo stick with the specifics. I suggest starting ONE thread per bug and give CLEAR steps to repro and be prepared to discuss it and try stuff that people may suggest. Now if you were writing this in the X2 days I'd cut you some slack. However X3 is barely out and we've had 3 substantial patches already a rant followed by your CV is gonna make you look bad... Even when your comments may or may not be valid.
Alex i posted 2 threads ...i just came here to share and then been treated like a troll with a wak system ...talking bussshh That's all , this is the first i got upset and certainly one of the last !! Again Alex congrats to the team , amount of work was hard but WHY not wait 3 weeks and drop a KILLER !! this was my whole issue ....of course i know DAW ALL Come with bugs !!! but really some bugs are deep and some are just to evident to have passed the Final candidate ;) Just my 2 cents ....
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 21:06:05
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Zo ....if not , bugs are so obvious that the beta testers should be punished !!lol
I have tested SW before. As a tester, you can report it till your blue in the face! Don't mean they will fix it!
True that !
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 21:29:58
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> but really some bugs are deep and some are just to evident to have passed the Final candidate Zo please check my previous link on agile development.... And this perhaps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_early,_release_often Yup I used to work for a QA dept, amongst other things, but I won't dwell on this ;) ... and one thread per bug, it's a discipline :) Cheers...
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 21:40:54
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lol strange when you guyz pass from "your system is the cause" to rethoric anaylsis .....i would have been super cool if i wasn't treated like a kid ....that's all ..... yep one bug per thread ? i wanted to share my first contact with the software in one thread and i kept discovering bugs after bugs ...then i stopped and decided to creat the "Boston we have a problem "thread this was my CRIME ..... Just say Zo please do this and that to keep consttructive would have been great , instead i go some in mature "your system " , you don't know , you troll" shhhh CNN bashing style .....i'm still amazed (and this thread became an attraction for some friends) by some of the post (posters) if you don't mind Alex , have a look on this thing if you can reproduce : http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2922867 Danke !
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:09:23
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When something doesn't work as you think it should. it is frustrating. It sucks that you are frustrated. But when considering true bugs versus "there may be something wrong on my end", there are a few things to consider. 1) If small-to-no-users can't reproduce the issue... it may be you 2) It could be Cake 3) Use the forum like you are to find your solution. Or try different ways to fix it (i.e. are your plugins/hardware drivers current?) 4) Build a box from scratch and see how it works. Work through it to see if you can make headway, because I don't encounter the same issues as you.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:29:28
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JonD Amazing how many non-X3 users (still on previous versions) are so quick to comment on X3 behavior that they haven't seen or experienced themselves. 
I guess it's because they're anxious to see how many bugs they'll get fixed for 150$
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:35:26
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hockeyjx When something doesn't work as you think it should. it is frustrating. It sucks that you are frustrated. But when considering true bugs versus "there may be something wrong on my end", there are a few things to consider. 1) If small-to-no-users can't reproduce the issue... it may be you 2) It could be Cake 3) Use the forum like you are to find your solution. Or try different ways to fix it (i.e. are your plugins/hardware drivers current?) 4) Build a box from scratch and see how it works. Work through it to see if you can make headway, because I don't encounter the same issues as you.
everything was done , all bugs were confirm by some dudes , i moved on exept some that keep focusing on "my syetem" , "me " and all ;) By the way X3C installed can reach my synth from syynths rack ...anybody can repoduce ? i can from the insert option and the browser/synth zone
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:42:00
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It's kind of fascinating to watch all you beta testers hard at work. Up until today I felt that you were more or less being (ab)used by Cakewalk to do their beta testing for them, for free. I had a sort of revelation a few hours ago. First, I get the impression some of you really enjoy doing this and second, the help you provide Cakewalk makes the whole thing a team effort and may very well be contributing substantially to Sonar's very reasonable price (ignoring for the moment the issue of bugs that persist). So keep up the good work. If I and my family weren't broke (we weren't last year) I'd have certainly already bought the update. Now I want to make sure I get something useful, and I don't need any of the new bells and whistles.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:43:22
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This thread started off pretty constructive but has degraded pretty quickly. Just an observation.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:48:24
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Paul P , to be fair what Cake done here in one months is pretty good as i remeber getting X1 solid at the X1D few weeks after release .... i think a lot of issue are realted to new features + VST 3 support and the new plugin manager ... wait and see , as usual don't update from day one , i updated to X1 i remember at X1 C if i would have done it now , i would have been way less upset ...
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:48:44
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Paul P It's kind of fascinating to watch all you beta testers hard at work. Up until today I felt that you were more or less being (ab)used by Cakewalk to do their beta testing for them, for free. I had a sort of revelation a few hours ago. First, I get the impression some of you really enjoy doing this and second, the help you provide Cakewalk makes the whole thing a team effort and may very well be contributing substantially to Sonar's very reasonable price (ignoring for the moment the issue of bugs that persist). So keep up the good work. If I and my family weren't broke (we weren't last year) I'd have certainly already bought the update. Now I want to make sure I get something useful, and I don't need any of the new bells and whistles.
SONAR X3 has been pretty stable from the initial release and I don't think the majority of X3 customers feel like they are being abused at all. The reality is that in the field, issues come up and they get reported back to us. This isn't specific to SONAR but every software out there. We've been hard at work and listening to users. We are committed to keep on improving SONAR beyond the initial release.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:52:28
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Paul P It's kind of fascinating to watch all you beta testers hard at work. Up until today I felt that you were more or less being (ab)used by Cakewalk to do their beta testing for them, for free. I had a sort of revelation a few hours ago. First, I get the impression some of you really enjoy doing this and second, the help you provide Cakewalk makes the whole thing a team effort and may very well be contributing substantially to Sonar's very reasonable price (ignoring for the moment the issue of bugs that persist). So keep up the good work. If I and my family weren't broke (we weren't last year) I'd have certainly already bought the update. Now I want to make sure I get something useful, and I don't need any of the new bells and whistles.
SONAR X3 has been pretty stable from the initial release and I don't think the majority of X3 customers feel like they are being abused at all. The reality is that in the field, issues come up and they get reported back to us. This isn't specific to SONAR but every software out there. We've been hard at work and listening to users. We are committed to keep on improving SONAR beyond the initial release.
Andrew , may i suggest a simple thing : a data base with dynamic update as soon as a bug is validated and escaladed by you guyz , like this we will not spend time in those kinda of bulsssshhhit .... exemple : i have a bug A , i check the list , if it's in , i move on , if not , i post and submit then if no workaround
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:55:32
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
Paul P It's kind of fascinating to watch all you beta testers hard at work. Up until today I felt that you were more or less being (ab)used by Cakewalk to do their beta testing for them, for free. I had a sort of revelation a few hours ago. First, I get the impression some of you really enjoy doing this and second, the help you provide Cakewalk makes the whole thing a team effort and may very well be contributing substantially to Sonar's very reasonable price (ignoring for the moment the issue of bugs that persist). So keep up the good work. If I and my family weren't broke (we weren't last year) I'd have certainly already bought the update. Now I want to make sure I get something useful, and I don't need any of the new bells and whistles.
SONAR X3 has been pretty stable from the initial release and I don't think the majority of X3 customers feel like they are being abused at all. The reality is that in the field, issues come up and they get reported back to us. This isn't specific to SONAR but every software out there. We've been hard at work and listening to users. We are committed to keep on improving SONAR beyond the initial release.
Andrew , may i suggest a simple thing : a data base with dynamic update as soon as a bug is validated and escaladed by you guyz , like this we will not spend time in those kinda of bulsssshhhit .... exemple : i have a bug A , i check the list , if it's in , i move on , if not , i post and submit then if no workaround
Thanks for the suggestion. I am not in development but I'll pass along for sure.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/10/31 22:59:36
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Andrew , may i suggest a simple thing : a data base with dynamic update as soon as a bug is validated and escaladed by you guyz , like this we will not spend time in those kinda of bulsssshhhit .... And then become open source LOL :)
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
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On a more serious note yup public bug trackers are always a good idea in my view as long as they are kept simple for the end consumer to view and doesn't get into the minefield of QA regression testing and developer opinions. The flipside is that it can be used against Cake in that the product could be perceived to be too buggy when all software has lots of bugs.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
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there must be reasons why the bug tracker's not public, it's been requested many many times over the years...
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there must be reasons why the bug tracker's not public, it's been requested many many times over the years...
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
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Zo
hockeyjxWhen something doesn't work as you think it should. it is frustrating. It sucks that you are frustrated. But when considering true bugs versus "there may be something wrong on my end", there are a few things to consider. 1) If small-to-no-users can't reproduce the issue... it may be you2) It could be Cake3) Use the forum like you are to find your solution. Or try different ways to fix it (i.e. are your plugins/hardware drivers current?)4) Build a box from scratch and see how it works. Work through it to see if you can make headway, because I don't encounter the same issues as you.
everything was done , all bugs were confirm by some dudes , i moved on exept some that keep focusing on "my syetem" , "me " and all ;) By the way X3C installed can reach my synth from syynths rack ...anybody can repoduce ? i can from the insert option and the browser/synth zone
Zo - your screenshots above don't say a damn thing. I have no issues with soloing tracks and synths going out of time. I have never had the missing Asio buffer setting as shown on your screen. Rather than "CONFIRMED BUGS" I submit that these are unique to your system - what "dudes" have confirmed these problems? Are you saying the solo bug you are referring to is related to the metronome bug that has been reported elsewhere, (and is not universal by the way)?
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
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Paul P It's kind of fascinating to watch all you beta testers hard at work. Up until today I felt that you were more or less being (ab)used by Cakewalk to do their beta testing for them, for free. I had a sort of revelation a few hours ago. First, I get the impression some of you really enjoy doing this and second, the help you provide Cakewalk makes the whole thing a team effort and may very well be contributing substantially to Sonar's very reasonable price (ignoring for the moment the issue of bugs that persist). So keep up the good work. If I and my family weren't broke (we weren't last year) I'd have certainly already bought the update. Now I want to make sure I get something useful, and I don't need any of the new bells and whistles.
X3 is great and getting better. In case there's any doubt your contribution to this post has contributed nothing. There's a party going on and you're stuck outside looking in through the window. I get it. It hurts.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/11/01 10:44:53
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Brando In case there's any doubt your contribution to this post has contributed nothing.
Actually, it was an apology of sorts for having rained on your parade.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
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Brando In case there's any doubt your contribution to this post has contributed nothing.
Actually, it was an apology of sorts for having rained on your parade.
Paul - looking at the responses to your post it wasn't taken that way. In any case - while I don't feel like a beta tester at all, and X3 is a great release (IMO) - I will apologize myself for taking an unwarranted shot at you - hope you find the means to join the party yourself one day soon.
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Re: I'm REALLY liking SONAR X3, BUT...
2013/11/01 11:04:58
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Brando hope you find the means to join the party yourself one day soon.
So do I. I appreciate your post, Brando. X3's release has caused me quite a bit of confusion which I'm trying to sort out.
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