IF AUDIO Snap doesn't work what does

AS works pretty much as advertised in 8.5.3 with a few awkward/problematic/buggy areas that require workarounds or "avoidance". I'm told some other DAWs do some things better than SONAR in this respect, but I haven't worked with any myself, and I've never seen hard evidence to back up that claim. At best, I would guess some are better at some facets of this challenge than others.
 
What are you trying to do, specifically, that's not working as you expect?
 
 
 
 

That's pretty much the first I've heard of AS corrupting a file in a repeatable way. Definitely not par for the course. I've used and abused AS quite a bit, and never had a file that couldn't be opened. My guess is there's some plug in the project causing the problem or interacting with AS in a way that causes a problem. Can you reproduce this in a clean project with no plug-ins?
 
As for quality of the results, that depends a lot on how well you dial in the transient marker locations before you start stretching anything, and you have to bounce the clips down when you're done to get the benefit of the offline stretching algorithms. Since you're talking about saving projects with AS still active, it sounds like you may not have done that.

sdpate

Is there another program that actually does what audio snap tries to to - that is quantize audio data and allow tempo, changes and beat mapping?

Check out Melodyne
http://www.celemony.com/cms/
It's nothing like AudioSnap, but it can get most of the same things done, and more..

Audio snap is a joke. Yes, Melodyne does a decent job and is at least useable. Just a lot of juggling.

Brundlefly mentioned bouncing the clips down when finished, did you say if you were doing this? I know it will not sound good until it gets bounced, but I could be way off track. Have noticed it myself, and seemed to cure the problem. Good luck

That's an awesome offer - today is flu day so I'll do something rational tomorrow - awake now!

If you would look at the project - what should I send you ? wav files ?  It's only two tracks bass and guitar that I'm working on.

Thanks again

Nch3966


just   slip edit. i wasted sooo much time on audiosnap

WHAT???? How on earth could you use slip edit to do what audio snap does?? Slip edit does not move audio transients anywhere no matter what you do. Are you joking?

SDpate, I did not understand your comment on Autosave in connection to having active AS in the project.. Brundelefly ws talking about AudioSnap, no AutoSave, and that it's good to bounce the AudioSnapped parts before you close the project. Just like with pitchcorrection plugins, the risk of some sort of problems increases if you close the project leaving these plugins active, because they dive quite deep in your data, and the slightest hiccups can cause big nuisance.

gladly not a joke and i will gladly share this very useful trick with you my friend


1)select all your drums
2)split once at every measure
3) now select one measure with all drums and hold ALT+SHIFT and drag to the rightspot way easy with snap to grid on do that through out the whole song
make sure if a measure is behind beat to split one grid marker before the transient

:)! that takes like 20 mins 
then fine tuning set your snap to grid from 8th to 16th

def  hit that button in the upper left hand corner that puts a visual grid on your project

its very easy! try it:)


sorry if you already knew this trick



p.s!make sure autocross fades are on and are set linear in linear out 

Kalle Rantaaho

Nch3966


gladly not a joke and i will gladly share this very useful trick with you my friend


its very easy! try it:)

sorry if you already knew this trick


p.s!make sure autocross fades are on and are set linear in linear out 

It's easy and straight forward, yes, but if I read that correctly that's simply audio quantizing made the hard way. That is nothing close to what the more demanding tasks are that Audio Snap does (when you get it working :o/). And doing that to, say, an organ track with very hard-to-see transients would not go in twenty minutes.
 
You said you use slip edit - your description doesn't mention it, only splitting. Well, I can see that in some cases the moved portions may overlap so much that you need to slip edit.

The whole procedure sounds unworkable to me. What about hits that are not on the first beat of the measure? What if a hit is early so splitting splits the transient?


A better way to split beats is to use Remove Silence, which is like a combination of gating and auto-splitting that will break out every transient so you can quantize clip start times. This can work better than AS on tracks where AS is mis-detecting a lot of transients.

 

brundlefly

Kalle Rantaaho

Nch3966


gladly not a joke and i will gladly share this very useful trick with you my friend


its very easy! try it:)

sorry if you already knew this trick


p.s!make sure autocross fades are on and are set linear in linear out 

It's easy and straight forward, yes, but if I read that correctly that's simply audio quantizing made the hard way. That is nothing close to what the more demanding tasks are that Audio Snap does (when you get it working :o/). And doing that to, say, an organ track with very hard-to-see transients would not go in twenty minutes.

You said you use slip edit - your description doesn't mention it, only splitting. Well, I can see that in some cases the moved portions may overlap so much that you need to slip edit.

The whole procedure sounds unworkable to me. What about hits that are not on the first beat of the measure? What if a hit is early so splitting splits the transient?


A better way to split beats is to use Remove Silence, which is like a combination of gating and auto-splitting that will break out every transient so you can quantize clip start times. This can work better than AS on tracks where AS is mis-detecting a lot of transients.

 

wow..this is a great idea.seriously.

Nch3966, the point in my comments concerning your method is not about whether it's workable or not, but that it is not a substitute for using AudioSnap as you suggested.