tayzonday
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INPUT ECHO BUG!!
I seem to have run into a bug where my global input echo button stays on, even though input echo is disabled on every track. Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRCc74m7lps
And yes, my Sonar version is the latest with Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, etc.
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chuckebaby
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/24 17:22:14
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Do you have this checked off in preferences ? Preferences > MIDI > Playback and Recording= "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" Try unchecking it
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tayzonday
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/24 17:42:47
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Nope! I always have "always echo current MIDI track" unchecked. I use too many key-switched virtual instruments, so automatically echoing my tracks is annoying. Incidentally, checking this, applying the result and then un-checking it does not fix this problem. chuckebaby
Do you have this checked off in preferences ? Preferences > MIDI > Playback and Recording= "Always Echo Current MIDI Track"
Try unchecking it
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/24 17:49:45
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Tried clicking the Audio Engine button/midi panic button ?
I just gave it a whirl and everything looks good here. Are you using a control surface ? possibly it is sending a message to the input echo, though it does seem odd that no tracks are selected.
Is the only issue that the light is on ?
What happens when you toggle a tracks input echo ?
I would suggest reporting it in the problem reports (in the Bakery) but im not seeing the same here and hopefully some others will try to repro the issue.
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tayzonday
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/24 20:08:23
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I can CONFIRM that when I freeze every track in the project, save the project as a BUNDLE, then RE-BUILD the bundle -- the global input echo button is still stuck on. IN fact, if you really want to troubleshoot, here's the 293mb Zipped bundle (*.bun) file. See if the global input echo button is stuck on when you try to re-build it: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5ieQb-BvsIdbGtnZFhFQTRtTU0 chuckebaby
Tried clicking the Audio Engine button/midi panic button ?
I just gave it a whirl and everything looks good here. Are you using a control surface ? possibly it is sending a message to the input echo, though it does seem odd that no tracks are selected.
Is the only issue that the light is on ?
What happens when you toggle a tracks input echo ?
I would suggest reporting it in the problem reports (in the Bakery) but im not seeing the same here and hopefully some others will try to repro the issue.
post edited by tayzonday - 2017/10/24 23:36:49
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tayzonday
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/24 23:20:21
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/25 03:05:15
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there are no bugs in Cakewalk
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chuckebaby
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/25 15:18:25
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tayzonday
OK, I THINK I Fixed the link to the Cakewalk Bundle File -- I have to ZIP It first so a web browser knows what to do with it. Chrome tries to play rather than download a CWB for some odd reason
https://drive.google.com/...b-BvsIdbGtnZFhFQTRtTU0
Im downloading it now and will give it a go in a little bit. AdamGrossmanLG
there are no bugs in Cakewalk
I would like to think this community has been there for you when you needed their help...Now someone else needs help. Was that comment your definition of help ?
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/25 15:27:26
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chuckebaby
tayzonday
OK, I THINK I Fixed the link to the Cakewalk Bundle File -- I have to ZIP It first so a web browser knows what to do with it. Chrome tries to play rather than download a CWB for some odd reason
https://drive.google.com/...b-BvsIdbGtnZFhFQTRtTU0
Im downloading it now and will give it a go in a little bit.
AdamGrossmanLG
there are no bugs in Cakewalk
I would like to think this community has been there for you when you needed their help...Now someone else needs help.
Was that comment your definition of help ?
Absolutely, I love this forum, and I try to help where I can too! I have shared themes, tech tips, etc... but just a little frustrating when some people aren't even open to the idea of the product having a bug. :)
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chuckebaby
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/25 15:33:20
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☼ Best Answerby tayzonday 2017/10/27 13:19:20
Alright I loaded up your project and got input echo turned off.
How ? well to be honest im not sure why but tracks 21+22 were on (input echo was on both of those tracks).
However trying to disable them wouldn't work, but holding down CNTRL and selecting the input echo button twice toggled the quick groups function and it worked.
Im guessing some how you turned on a quick group (which is very easy to do) by holding CNTRL+ Input echo on one or more tracks.
So HOLD CNTL down while toggling input echo on track 21 or 22. 2 or 3 times should do the trick.
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chuckebaby
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/25 15:34:51
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mmmAbsolutely, I love this forum, and I try to help where I can too! I have shared themes, tech tips, etc... but just a little frustrating when some people aren't even open to the idea of the product having a bug. :) Still not helping this guy are you You have plenty of time to use this thread as your soapbox (because it has the word "bug" in it) but you have little time to help the OP.
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/25 19:39:40
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chuckebaby
mmmAbsolutely, I love this forum, and I try to help where I can too! I have shared themes, tech tips, etc... but just a little frustrating when some people aren't even open to the idea of the product having a bug. :)
Still not helping this guy are you
You have plenty of time to use this thread as your soapbox (because it has the word "bug" in it) but you have little time to help the OP.
sorry i was just tryin' to add a li' humor.
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chuckebaby
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 11:46:32
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Wow, no reply from the guy who started this thread (I downloaded a 300mb project for nothing).
looks like the jokes on me.
Next time I wont even bother.
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 12:00:40
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chuckebaby
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 12:10:01
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 12:19:52
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it's a forum, not a chat room, not everyone sits on F5
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chuckebaby
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 12:33:14
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pwalpwal
it's a forum, not a chat room, not everyone sits on F5
PWAL, im wondering if you can do me a favor and download this project and load it up and tell me if you see what I see. (track 22 has the input echo button on).
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 12:40:34
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Let me guess you cant because you don't even have sonar near you right now.
Ironic isn't it... This forum is a chat room for you.
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:02:47
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well i am at work  but maybe try this evening if i remember, downloading now
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pwalpwal
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:05:22
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i'm missing plugins:
REmatrix Solo (Bus: 'Master')
REmatrix Solo (Track: 'reFX Nexus 1')
iZotope Alloy (Track: 'Kontakt 5 1')
REmatrix Solo (Track: 'Kontakt 5 3')
Soniformer (Track: 'Play 2')
REmatrix Solo (Track: 'Play 3')
Soniformer (Track: 'Play 5')
Guitar Rig 5 (Bus: '(Untitled)')
Guitar Rig 5 (Bus: '(Untitled)')
Soniformer (Track: 'Omnisphere 6')
iZotope Alloy 2 (Track: 'Omnisphere 6')
Soniformer (Track: 'Omnisphere 7')
iZotope Alloy (Track: 'Omnisphere 7')
Soniformer (Track: 'Trilian 3')
Soniformer (Track: 'Kontakt 5 6')
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pwalpwal
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:07:01
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input echo = auto-thru on track 22
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pwalpwal
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:07:47
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why haven't you replied yet? 
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pwalpwal
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:10:10
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and i do have the voxengo soniformer plugin (v3.7) installed, wonder why it thinks it's missing?
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pwalpwal
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:11:28
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and global input echo button shows "off" (not lit)
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pwalpwal
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:13:35
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and toggling global doesn't fix track 22, it returns to auto-thru... maybe it's like room 237
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tayzonday
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:14:40
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LOL dude sorry, the bug was not a project-stopping bug -- just cosmetic and annoying. I gave all the info I had on it and left it to the developers/community. I appreciate you digging more deeply into troubleshooting. There remains a discontinuity between the track view display and the console view display, as well as improper global input echo button triggering -- both are bugs that need fixing. I was totally ignorant of Quick Groups being a feature, let alone one that could impact this. It does seem to play a role in the larger bug and so thank you for educating me on this. chuckebaby
Wow, no reply from the guy who started this thread (I downloaded a 300mb project for nothing).
looks like the jokes on me.
Next time I wont even bother.
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:16:36
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tayzonday
I can CONFIRM that when I freeze every track in the project, save the project as a BUNDLE, then RE-BUILD the bundle -- the global input echo button is still stuck on.
i can CONFIRM that on my system, in the just-opened state of your project, global is OFF here, although track 22 is ON (auto-thru)
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pwalpwal
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:17:25
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yeah, i suspect it's a skylight hook come unhooked
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tayzonday
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Re: INPUT ECHO BUG!!
2017/10/27 13:18:25
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I'm going to mark this thread as answered by Chuckebaby (as much as it CAN be without Cakewalk's intervention) . . . cause I don't think we'll find out more about this bug until the developers themselves download the project and see what is happening in Sonar's source code.
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