IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way?

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IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way?

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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/17 08:11:14 (permalink)
    Pen and paper aren't affected by power outtages or flat batteries.

     
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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/17 10:28:07 (permalink)
    jamesg1213
    Pen and paper aren't affected by power outtages or flat batteries.



    AND ... lasts a lot longer in its usefulness!

    Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides! 
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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/17 10:50:26 (permalink)
    I've got a few apps on my iPad.  Songwriter is one...its OK, but I don't really use it much any more.  I have one called RhymeZone, when I am searching for rhyming words.  I am way more into near rhymes than actual rhyming words and the ones I've used, don't really do near rhymes that well.  I've got B-Rhymes Pro on my iPhone, but I don't think it comes in an iPad version.  
     
    Honestly, what has worked best for me, for song writing...is just using "Notes" on my iPad or iPhone.  You can quickly use the voice recorder and speak the lyrics onto Notes.  I can copy, paste, move easily as needed.  Connecting both my iPad and iPhone to the cloud, allows for the same notes to show up on both and update almost immediately.  To me, simpler is better and it is almost like a virtual pen and paper.  
     
    Later, when I have the lyrics completed, or close to it; I can copy/ paste that into an email or just forward it to myself and use it to populate what ever other program that I want to add it too.  
     
    I really like that you can "talk" the lyrics into these units in Notes, because for me, the lyric ideas always come at the worst times and being able to quickly say the lyric before you loose the idea is awesome.  
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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/17 10:53:52 (permalink)
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    Pen and paper aren't affected by power outtages or flat batteries.



    AND ... lasts a lot longer in its usefulness!


    I just flat out disagree with you.  My iPhone is always on me, always charged and is one of the most useful tools I have ever owned, in the last 54 years.  I could easily go back to doing things the old fashion way, but why when it just makes everything easier.  

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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/17 11:55:30 (permalink)
    I would love to have an I Pad …  there is a lot of cool music apps you could put on it …
    I would put some of the apps I already have on my i Mac …
    i Real Band is great for practicing and jamming , Garage Band , also I would add some of the IK iOS amps and synths ….
    Even Cakewalk got into the game with this https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Z3TA/iOS 
     
    A lot of music companies are developing excellent products for that market …
     
    I've been to clubs and seen people using an iPad on stage as their main rig plugged into the house …
    Also have seen singers w them on a music stand ,
     
    Yeah , they are useful and they are expensive ….if I had the coin i would certainly go there 
     
    I also understand folks that aren't into all this type of jazz ….
     
    fwiw….I constantly rebel against all the technology that I even have now and I make it a point to play totally off the grid most of the time using only an acoustic guitar and not even a freaking pick  
     
    imho,….in the end it is all about finding a balance and using what works best for you ..
     
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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/17 12:38:14 (permalink)
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    Pen and paper aren't affected by power outtages or flat batteries.



    AND ... lasts a lot longer in its usefulness!


    I just flat out disagree with you.  My iPhone is always on me, always charged and is one of the most useful tools I have ever owned, in the last 54 years.  I could easily go back to doing things the old fashion way, but why when it just makes everything easier.  




    For the record, I was kidding, hence the smiley. I don't even write lyrics. . Whatever suits the workflow and the inspiration.

     
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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/17 12:50:31 (permalink)
    Kindles (or any eReader) are less expensive and are designed to read more like paper (easier on the eyes). You'll of course want to make sure you get one that will be able to display the text in any lighting situations you anticipate encountering and get one of the full page sized ones. I was going to buy one years ago with the thumb keyboard for writing as well as reading. Since I'm pretty sure they can handle PDFs as well they can be used for sheet music.
     
    Then your iPad can be reserved for more computery type stuff like controlling audio crap like effects/transport/etc or even recording into.
     
    You could fit a full page sized Kindle and an iPad on a standard music stand and have both in front of you.
     
    Edit: One thing I'd want for an eReader though is the ability to use some kind of foot controller to "turn" the page. Not sure what devices/peripherals are out there for that type of thing. The same concern is still in play with a tablet PC/Mac as well but within a music program that could likely be sorted via MIDI signals.
     
    I guess what I would look into for an eReader is accessibility features that would allow physically challenged folks to control page turning outside the device like breath, foot, bluetooth button, whatever control. Foot control being the ideal set up for pretty much all musicians except maybe drummers.
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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/17 21:40:38 (permalink)
    I use an app called Songsheet. Works a treat on gigs with my iPad mounted in an iKlip on a stand. Even has a foot switch feature, IIRC, which I don't use.

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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/18 10:39:55 (permalink)
    My musical partner is notorious for not remembering song lyrics. I've known him for 45 years and in all that time he's rarely sung the same lyrics twice. Makes it quite difficult for me to add harmonies.
     
    But last year, he started using an iPad, mounted to his microphone stand. It's reduced the amount of time between songs and brought a level of consistency that we've never had before. 
     
    The only downside: people see the tablet and assume we're karaoke-singing to MP3s. It's one of the reasons I refuse to use a computer onstage.


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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/18 12:11:57 (permalink)
    I use an iPad for live playing every week.  I use Forscore.  I think it costs $4 or something (one time only, no subscription).  you can also purchase a Bluetooth device to turn the pages for you with a foot press (not sold by the same company).
     
    forscore will load pdfs or jpgs or tiffs, etc.  I also loads word documents. 
     
    it also connects directly to your dropbox folder so you can share files between band members on dropbox and everyone pull them from that shared folder.
     
    it will also allow you to share setlists with all band members and allow one person to control the page turns for everyone.  but we don't use that feature.  I personally don't want someone else turning the pages for me.
     
     
    you can add notes to each sheet using your finger or stylus or you can type notes into the page.
      there are a lot of features in forscore, very powerful and useful tool
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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/18 14:20:03 (permalink)
    A combination of iOS 9's multitasking and the screen size/cpu of the yet to be released iPad Pro could make the iPad more usable in a live situation than it already is. The big problem with the current range (other than the Air2 with iOS9) is that although they can multitask synths via audiobus you can only access one app at a time.

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    Re: IPAD as Lyrics book? What app? Any drawback? Would you rather go the old fashioned way 2015/09/18 16:57:45 (permalink)
    tlw
    A combination of iOS 9's multitasking and the screen size/cpu of the yet to be released iPad Pro could make the iPad more usable in a live situation than it already is. The big problem with the current range (other than the Air2 with iOS9) is that although they can multitask synths via audiobus you can only access one app at a time.

    I agree and I really do want the new iPad Pro, but I have never needed to multitask while playing live.  I only need the one application.

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