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2010/12/01 19:00:55 (permalink)

If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed?

Hope not :)

This is a V Studio 700 forum, not a Sonar forum, so hope this doesn't offend any mods or Cakewalk, as I am a long time Sonar user and owner of a V Studio 700.  

I am a student at LA Recording School and am required to use PT, but I don't want to use the crummy M Box and macbook pro they gave me, I want to use my V Studio and i7 desktop.  Any word on compatibility with PT9?  Sure would be nice if it worked.

I was ready to get a M Audio Lightbridge and go out of the V Studio via lightpipe so I can transfer sessions from the studio I work at and from school.  But with PT9 out, I won't have to do that.  If anyone has any info or experience with PT9 on the V Studio, please let me know

Also, really looking forward to x1!  Keep up the good work guys!



Disclaimer: I am in no way trying to start a flame war about PT and Sonar.  I like them both, and I like macs and PCs.  And I like chocolate and vanilla.  And dogs AND cats.  I wish everyone was as easy going.


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    Dimaman
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2010/12/02 15:27:46 (permalink)
    Nobody?  Guess everyone is saving for X1.
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2010/12/02 16:48:26 (permalink)
    I haven't tested it but in theory PT9 should work with the VS-700 hardware. PT9 supports the Mackie Universal Control protocol and ASIO audio interfaces. So technically there is no reason to believe that it won't work. I have used the VS-700C as a hardware interface with Logic and Ableton Live and it works fine. Please be aware that I haven't actually recorded any full projects with and other DAWs besides SONAR. 

    I'm kind of interested to find out myself, although not as interested as I was before SONAR X1 was announced. I'm sure that we'll hear more about this once PT9 has been out there awhile. 

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2010/12/02 17:12:35 (permalink)
    Check this out.

    You can alter the database, so when I get my PT9 upgrade tomorrow, I'll let you guys know.  


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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2010/12/02 18:49:59 (permalink)
    What you meen alter the database ?


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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2010/12/03 16:00:08 (permalink)
    Hmmm, i forgot the link. OOPS!  I mean, you can input whatever you want and add an interface.  Check it out.

    http://www.airusersblog.com/pro-tools-9-hardware-checker/



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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2010/12/03 16:49:37 (permalink)
    ahhhhh I see now

    I still wouldnt pay the asking price for protools 9

    I moved to sonar from protools...... protools is the devil :P

    Bring on X1 :D

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2010/12/03 18:29:57 (permalink)
    I have a shopping list for Dec.

    Firstly, X1.

    Secondly, I got PT8 at school, the upgrade is $250

    I was also given the DV toolkit and the upgrade to complete production toolkit is $200 as well.  

    Complete production toolkit will give me most HD functions on LE with my V Studio 700.  

    Couple that with my JBL LSR 4328s, my new omnirax desk and my i7 920 clocked at 3.8Ghz, I'm ready for some serious business.

    PS:  HERE is a link to my music.  Written, composed, performed, recorded and mixed, by yours truly. :) 


    All done on Sonar 7+
    Half on the V Studio, half on my old Tascam FW1884.  All recorded on a Rode NT2A.


    Again, I love Sonar, but I have to do my HW on PT.  The big studio I work at in LA also uses PT, so having the ability to work on stuff at home is a must.  Dec is a good month.  Happy Hanukkah! 
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2010/12/07 21:26:21 (permalink)
    I don't think there's any reason to remove this thread at all. It's a fair subject, really, since the VS-700 is designed to work with just about any DAW. We've had others inquire about how it functions with other DAWs and quite frankly that's OK. After all, there are ASIO and Core Audio drivers for a reason.

    Not that we don't want you to run X1, of course.


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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/04 13:14:09 (permalink)
    Bump. Dimaman- any updates on PT9 and the V-Studio 700?!

    I love X1 but I never got around to learning Pro Tools because of ADC and my UAD2... but now PT9 includes it and I wouldn't mind trying it out and learning the industry-standard program. 

    V-Studio 700 Set w/ Sonar X1a x64 & x32, UAD2 (almost all plug-ins), Waves Mercury, Izotope (Nectar/Ozone/Alloy), Reason 4, Komplete 7, Kore 2,  BFD2.
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/12 05:56:19 (permalink)
    First attempt at integrating PT9 into my system is a go.  Couple of things:

    I installed a fresh copy of Win 7 Ultimate x64 on a seperate partition.  My audio software is going on there.  No internet, and streamlined for audio use.  The other partition is for games :) internet and work processing.  

    PT9 installed successfully.  It loaded, ilok worked, it loaded a demo project flawlessly.  The I/O showed all available input and outputs.  Everything was AWESOME, until I tried to setup the control surface.  Then it crashed, lol.  Its 3 am, im going to sleep, but I'll keep everyone posted.  

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/12 05:59:28 (permalink)
    BTW, how do I put the 700c into mackie control mode?

    Do I have to use the USB cable?  Will it still work to control the volume of the Mon and Subs?  Thanks.
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/12 22:18:35 (permalink)
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/13 02:20:19 (permalink)
    Dimaman


    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eB...0192604#ht_2272wt_1141 Whoop whoop!

    WTF :S

    Why you selling it ?

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/16 23:47:41 (permalink)
    So my battle with PT9 is still commencing.  Lots of issues on PT9s end.

    Whats up with mackie control mode?  If  I do that, I need to use the USB cable yes?  And if I use the USB cable, I cant control mon and headphone volume?  
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/17 03:13:43 (permalink)
    Whats with the selling of the VS system though

    Surely a quick email to the tec guys would tell you how to do that ?




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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/19 16:48:42 (permalink)
    Using the VS-700C in MCU mode is as simple as having it connected to your system and then configuring the MCU surface within the third-party DAW, of course choosing VS-700C as the surface's MIDI I/O. The problem with MCU and PT is that PT doesn't support MCU, IIRC, only HUI. As such the VS-700C will not support PT, unless PT9 added MCU support.
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/19 17:16:41 (permalink)
    9 supports MCU.  

    Thats not really the issue anymore.  I'm opening a studio in silverlake and need a bigger surface.  We will have:

    Sonar 8.5
    PT 9
    Logic pro 9
    on a dual boot hackintosh/windows 7 system.

    I'm debating on the control surface, but having meters work is important.  I love the V Studio for Sonar.  Can't be beat for that, but it's having issues playing nicely with everything else.  I'm upgrading to Lynx Aurora 16 OR RME UFX OR possible an SSL Nucleus.  Meeting the other guys this weekend, but unfortunately the V Studio was voted out as our primary tool.  I'd love to keep it, but can't warrant the purchase of the new stuff with out the selling of some old.  
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/19 18:18:57 (permalink)
    Best of luck with your new studio and with the search for your new gear. Would def be cool for you to post what work you do with SONAR in your new digs.
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/20 09:12:58 (permalink)
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    9 supports MCU.  

    Thats not really the issue anymore.  I'm opening a studio in silverlake and need a bigger surface.  We will have:

    Sonar 8.5
    PT 9
    Logic pro 9
    on a dual boot hackintosh/windows 7 system.

    I'm debating on the control surface, but having meters work is important.  I love the V Studio for Sonar.  Can't be beat for that, but it's having issues playing nicely with everything else.  I'm upgrading to Lynx Aurora 16 OR RME UFX OR possible an SSL Nucleus.  Meeting the other guys this weekend, but unfortunately the V Studio was voted out as our primary tool.  I'd love to keep it, but can't warrant the purchase of the new stuff with out the selling of some old.  


    It's a cryin shame you can't afford to set up a seperate station-DAW machine, Sonar, VS700 control surface, for the tasks you use Sonar for and network your studio together for transfer of files. I think you're going to have headaches getting it all to work together on a budget.

    Craig DuBuc
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/20 12:00:20 (permalink)
    I agree it is a shame :(

    I came to sonar from useing Protools theres nothing that protools can do that you cant in sonar and its not even 64 bit Sonar and protools are night and day.

    macs are just viruses :P and I prosonaly dont like logic. ( just my personal opinion each to there own)

    What I dont understand is the actual need for Sonar Protools and Logic ?

    I remember a past thread with you moaning on about needing to use protools because its what the clients want....... Surely the client want the best finished track so at the end of the day if you can do that in sonar then theres no need for anything else.

    I would recomend a very simple solution and probably a lot easyer than trying to to what you are planing to do. Buy an Mbox then If a client has tracks in protools they want to finish or work on re mix or whatever you can load it up and take t out and use it in sonar.

    By a Cheep second hand macbook for the same logic reasons and do the same then work in Sonar

    That way everyones a winner its not the clients doing the mixing its you so it should be you who has the tols he wants :)

    Just my thoughts but I wish you the best of luck with the buisness

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/20 12:05:45 (permalink)
    Hey I have a Tascam 488 MK2 for sale.
    And I'll throw in a box of TDK cassettes.
    You wanna also have that in the recording arsenal just in case......

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/22 19:12:58 (permalink)
    Westside Steve


    Hey I have a Tascam 488 MK2 for sale.
    And I'll throw in a box of TDK cassettes.
    You wanna also have that in the recording arsenal just in case......

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/24 19:14:41 (permalink)
    I've decided to keep it.  After shopping around and seeing whats out there, this setup is pretty unbeatable.
    Still can't get it work nicely with PT9, so that was a waste.  Crashes as soon as you open the asio panel as well as on some other occasions.  Prolly Avid's fault.  Maybe an update will fix it, but in the meantime, I'll keep enjoying my V Studio.  If it aint broke...
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/24 19:19:20 (permalink)
    Dimaman


    I've decided to keep it.  After shopping around and seeing whats out there, this setup is pretty unbeatable.
    Still can't get it work nicely with PT9, so that was a waste.  Crashes as soon as you open the asio panel as well as on some other occasions.  Prolly Avid's fault.  Maybe an update will fix it, but in the meantime, I'll keep enjoying my V Studio.  If it aint broke...


    I'm sorry if all the competing DAW manufacterors don't swap code with each other. What? No Avid controller?

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/24 19:34:15 (permalink)
    I still dont understand the need for Protools ???? 

    Whats stoping you just useing Sonar ? Takeing anything out of any protools sessions you are given and working on it in Sonar ?

    Am I wrong in thinking this would be the best way ?

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/24 20:34:53 (permalink)
    Transferring sessions between Sonar and PT rigs (which are used in 99% of studios in LA, at least the ones I've worked) is a huge pain the ass.  Most of the work I get I get in PT Session Files.  Then i have to go to one of the other studios I work from, consolidate audio and take the consolidated audio tracks and and open them in Sonar.  OMF is a disaster and totally unreliable.  That's my need for PT.  I wish EVERYONE used sonar.  But they don't, they use ProTools.  That is really the only reason.  

    I sometimes am responsible for only one part of a project.  Recently I was asked to do some sound design for a small indie film, and the other guys working on the audio were using PT8 HD rigs.  They were not happy with my inability to use PT.  

    Producing in Sonar is awesome.  But when we track at Studio 7445 or moonshine, or even at school in the 9000k room, I have to again, consolidate and transfer in that method.  

    I wish OMF were more reliable, and I will continue to try to work the kinks out and figure out why it behaves the way it does, but until then, I already have PT9 and would like to get it to work. 
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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/25 03:44:52 (permalink)
    Get an old Mbox off ebay then :) or even the Micro Mbox with no inputs would do.

    Problem solved :)

    Thats all I plan to do just incase I get a protools session put my way then its easy as pie to get it in to sonar :)

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/25 20:01:50 (permalink)
    Dimaman


    Transferring sessions between Sonar and PT rigs (which are used in 99% of studios in LA, at least the ones I've worked) is a huge pain the ass.  Most of the work I get I get in PT Session Files.  Then i have to go to one of the other studios I work from, consolidate audio and take the consolidated audio tracks and and open them in Sonar.  OMF is a disaster and totally unreliable.  That's my need for PT.  I wish EVERYONE used sonar.  But they don't, they use ProTools.  That is really the only reason.  

    I sometimes am responsible for only one part of a project.  Recently I was asked to do some sound design for a small indie film, and the other guys working on the audio were using PT8 HD rigs.  They were not happy with my inability to use PT.  

    Producing in Sonar is awesome.  But when we track at Studio 7445 or moonshine, or even at school in the 9000k room, I have to again, consolidate and transfer in that method.  

    I wish OMF were more reliable, and I will continue to try to work the kinks out and figure out why it behaves the way it does, but until then, I already have PT9 and would like to get it to work. 


    Why can't you save and transfer in .wav?

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    Re:If I start a thread about the V Studio 700 and PT9, will it get removed? 2011/01/25 20:14:23 (permalink)
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    Dimaman


    Transferring sessions between Sonar and PT rigs (which are used in 99% of studios in LA, at least the ones I've worked) is a huge pain the ass.  Most of the work I get I get in PT Session Files.  Then i have to go to one of the other studios I work from, consolidate audio and take the consolidated audio tracks and and open them in Sonar.  OMF is a disaster and totally unreliable.  That's my need for PT.  I wish EVERYONE used sonar.  But they don't, they use ProTools.  That is really the only reason.  

    I sometimes am responsible for only one part of a project.  Recently I was asked to do some sound design for a small indie film, and the other guys working on the audio were using PT8 HD rigs.  They were not happy with my inability to use PT.  

    Producing in Sonar is awesome.  But when we track at Studio 7445 or moonshine, or even at school in the 9000k room, I have to again, consolidate and transfer in that method.  

    I wish OMF were more reliable, and I will continue to try to work the kinks out and figure out why it behaves the way it does, but until then, I already have PT9 and would like to get it to work. 


    Why can't you save and transfer in .wav?


    Good point !

    A nice guy on the forum here took one of my old protools tracks and consolodated it took all the wave files and Midi out and sent it back to me was very quick aswell.

    Ive since seen a friend do this and it takes no time at all so there should be no problems doing it that way.
    If you dont have the time in the other studio to sit there due to cost of renting the place then put it on a hard drive take it home buy a Mbox Micro and do the same thing but at home in your own time........

    Problem solved a very easy wrk around! :)

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