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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/22 20:02:26
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☄ Helpfulby JohnKenn 2016/04/22 22:15:32
Or then do not upgrade anything. I try to treat my studio computer as if it were a hardware recorder. Besides minor updates to Logic, I'm not upgrading anything on it. As is, it covers all my needs.
It's still running on Mavericks, which is the OS that came with it, and I have zero intention of ever upgrading to another OS.
I'm constantly trying to get rid of more and more 3rd party plug-ins - not that I use many - to avoid the domino effect of having to upgrade this because of that because of this. I do get an extra bit of motivation every time a manufacturer decides that I need to install additional software on my machine just to manage and authorize their plug-ins (and they all seem to be heading in that direction).
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cclarry
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/22 20:07:39
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I take the opposite approach. I keep everything up to date...
but, then again, I have the horse power to do so...and am not
adverse to dealing with issues...being r e t a r ded, I mean retired,
I have nothing but time, so it keeps me occupied...
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/22 21:12:21
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☄ Helpfulby TheMaartian 2016/04/22 21:42:29
... is on your side, yes it is!
"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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JohnKenn
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/22 22:04:56
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"Or then do not upgrade anything. I try to treat my studio computer as if it were a hardware recorder. Besides minor updates to Logic, I'm not upgrading anything on it. As is, it covers all my needs."
Got to put some serious thought into this one...
John
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/23 01:13:37
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JohnKenn
"Or then do not upgrade anything. I try to treat my studio computer as if it were a hardware recorder. Besides minor updates to Logic, I'm not upgrading anything on it. As is, it covers all my needs."
Got to put some serious thought into this one...
John
I can see John's point. Check out DAW forums where software is cross platform. There are Mac users who have not taken the plunge into El Capitan. I've gotten emails from developers that stated to hold off on that upgrade and I don't use a Mac.
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Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/23 07:25:15
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JohnKenn
"Or then do not upgrade anything. I try to treat my studio computer as if it were a hardware recorder. Besides minor updates to Logic, I'm not upgrading anything on it. As is, it covers all my needs."
Got to put some serious thought into this one...
John
That's what I will do eventually with my current win7 system. Currently Sonar keeps getting better with every release, so I maintain the system up to date but since there is no more support on win10 for several of my audio devices, there will be a point when I freeze the system and use it as is for a while ... and then build a parallel universe with new audio devices on win18 or whatever it is then before the current system leaves me ...
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JonD
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/23 10:40:03
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It's important to emphasize the blog writer is on a Mac. I noticed a long time ago there is more of a "do or die" timeline with their OS upgrades than on Windows.
Note that Mountain Lion, his "outdated" O.S. was released 4 years before, to be followed by its successor, Maverick, 18 months later. You read that right -- 18 months! I call that madness, by any reasonable standard.
Now compare Apple's timeline with Windows release dates: Win 7 - Oct 2009; Win8 - Oct 2012; Win 8.1 - Oct 2013; and finally, Win 10 - Jul 2015.
There are lots of folks here still happily using Win 7 (now at 6 and a half years old). I'm on Win 8.1, and have no plans to go to Win 10 until I build my new DAW sometime next year.
Honestly, after reading that blog, the only thing I came away with was that I'm glad I never jumped on the Mac "loco-motive". (Reminds me of the trains in India that don't stop at the station, but only slow down so passengers can get on or off. If you're too slow, you get injured or die).
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Sycraft
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/23 11:00:15
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The thing with OS-X isn't so much the speed of releases, but Apple's support model. Apple supports two versions prior to the current OS. So they support 10.11, 10.10 and 10.9 currently. As soon as 10.12 releases they will discontinue 10.9 support. Since they release pretty fast, and OS is supported for a couple years at most.
Microsoft supports their OSes for 10 years from first date of release. Doesn't matter how many they release after tat, they support it for the same time regardless. Hence every OS from Vista to 10 is currently in support, with Vista going out of support next year.
Net effect is that with OS-X you have to upgrade more often to stay in support. With Windows so long as you get a version of Windows reasonably early in its support cycle, you can stay on the same version for the whole time you have a computer. Like if you buy a computer now with Windows 10, you can keep it until 2025 and it'll still have support. Even if you buy one now with 8.1, it'll stay supported until 2023.
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/04/23 16:35:30
I try to do it Rains way. End up doing it Larry's way. "OK, just one more, then I'm done."
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/23 12:19:37
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
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batsbrew
Sonar 6 professional edition...
Win XP.....
intel p35 motherboard with Core 2 3.0g chip....
2 gig of ram...
Maudio Audiophile 192 pci card
just finished a brand new album with this rig:
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/batsbrew1
and everything purrs like a kitten.
ok, what were we talking about again?!
Yep, if it works for you and you're happy, why change? Who cares if people call you a Luddite? The original Luddites would think they had landed on another planet if they saw your setup.
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JohnKenn
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
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Saw Michael is also hanging onto win XP.
Real tragedy for me anticipating forward. Have a rock solid XP 32 bit rig, quad core with a 1010 LT M-Audio card. Does everything with elegance and grace.
Could go on forever with it, but more and more softwares and updates are pushing me into a corner, on top of the inevitable computer meltdown.
Then having to give up a dynamite sound card because new computers don't have the old PCI slots.
Don't know if there are many others clinging to XP and sense pending doom. Could be worse. Read an article 4 years ago about some guy with a $5k PCI card that was soon to be obsolete with the death of PCI slots.
John
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/23 16:20:29
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Fleer
... is on your side, yes it is!
Everytime I hear that I think of the movie "Fallen"... Great movie!
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/23 16:29:48
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cclarry
Fleer
... is on your side, yes it is!
Everytime I hear that I think of the movie "Fallen"...
Great movie!
Is That the one with Denzel and John Goodman? If so, it is a really good movie.
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Re: If it ain't broke, break it: Why putting off software upgrades can make things worse
2016/04/23 21:01:38
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JohnKenn
Saw Michael is also hanging onto win XP.
Real tragedy for me anticipating forward. Have a rock solid XP 32 bit rig, quad core with a 1010 LT M-Audio card. Does everything with elegance and grace.
Could go on forever with it, but more and more softwares and updates are pushing me into a corner, on top of the inevitable computer meltdown.
Then having to give up a dynamite sound card because new computers don't have the old PCI slots.
Don't know if there are many others clinging to XP and sense pending doom. Could be worse. Read an article 4 years ago about some guy with a $5k PCI card that was soon to be obsolete with the death of PCI slots.
John
Actually, I'm hanging on to Windows 7. I just understand and sympathize with the sentiment. I guess the trick is knowing what is a real, beneficial upgrade, and what is just "upgrading-to upgrade." And that is obviously different for everyone.
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