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2015/10/15 10:52:51 (permalink)

I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry)

If I buy the latest Cakewalk Sonar Professional, how is this different from "Producer" or "X3?"
The reason I'm asking is I have a very specific need beyond serving as my PC DAW software. I will be recording (among other stuff) a lot of bowed double bass. The performer is very concerned about their pitch being spot-on. So I want to be able to fix anything that might go wrong. The performer has a number of physical limitations that precludes multiple takes during tracking. I understand there are a bunch of free and high-priced plug-ins. But I guess I'm looking for something that works very well, for this specific task. I'm not averse to paying for a plug-in but it doesn't seem like it should cost a multiple of what Cakewalk costs. At least not to me. The reason for my original question is when I've searched for info re: Cakewalk and Pitch correction VST, I keep running into articles about X2 or X3 and Producer, so I'm not sure where I am in 2015 with versions and naming conventions. Yes, I did look through the forums 1st.  Also I am to install this product on Windows 10 lappy.
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    Doktor Avalanche
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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 10:56:03 (permalink)
    d00mbilly
    If I buy the latest Cakewalk Sonar Professional, how is this different from "Producer" or "X3?"
    The reason I'm asking is I have a very specific need beyond serving as my PC DAW software. I will be recording (among other stuff) a lot of bowed double bass. The performer is very concerned about their pitch being spot-on. So I want to be able to fix anything that might go wrong. The performer has a number of physical limitations that precludes multiple takes during tracking. I understand there are a bunch of free and high-priced plug-ins. But I guess I'm looking for something that works very well, for this specific task. I'm not averse to paying for a plug-in but it doesn't seem like it should cost a multiple of what Cakewalk costs. At least not to me. The reason for my original question is when I've searched for info re: Cakewalk and Pitch correction VST, I keep running into articles about X2 or X3 and Producer, so I'm not sure where I am in 2015 with versions and naming conventions. Yes, I did look through the forums 1st.  Also I am to install this product on Windows 10 lappy.
    Regards,
    Roger T.




    Check (scroll down on this link):
    https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions
     
    Sonar Pro and Platinum comes with Melodyne. Check that out.
     
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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 11:08:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Doktor Avalanche 2015/10/15 11:24:24
    Awesome muchas gracias! That was so much better than the BS upsale reply I got from my sw33twater "sales engineer."
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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 11:54:26 (permalink)
    You should consider Sonar Platinum it is equivalent to Producer X3.

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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 12:10:01 (permalink)
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    You should consider Sonar Platinum it is equivalent superior to Producer X3.




    I fixed that for you.  I hope you don't mind

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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 12:11:46 (permalink)
    Not at all Bob. I'm glad you did. LOL

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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 12:45:28 (permalink)
    d00mbilly
     I will be recording (among other stuff) a lot of bowed double bass. The performer is very concerned about their pitch being spot-on.

    (answer from n00b, I assume I understand the question correctly, it can be not the case...).
     
    Sonar (Professional and Platinum) as well as Sonar X3 Producer (previous top version) include license for Melodyne Essential as the pitch correction tool (before it was V-Vocal).
     
    The problem is that Essential is not polyphonic ( http://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/functions ) and so it is not good for bowed double bass correction.
     
    Normally once you register Melodyne Essential you get time limited offer for upgrade to Melodyne Editor (polyphonic). While the offer is good, be prepared to pay significant money for such upgrade. And I suggest you clarify either you get that offer with Celemony, especially in case you select monthly payment membership for Sonar.

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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 14:11:06 (permalink)
    I have a short-scale bass electric guitar that I use in most of my projects (X3 and Platinum).  It has a few intonation 'issues.'  My first task in mixing is to Melodyne my bass track(s).  Not sure if this helps, but it does work for me.
     
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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 15:08:44 (permalink)
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     I will be recording (among other stuff) a lot of bowed double bass. The performer is very concerned about their pitch being spot-on.
     
    The problem is that Essential is not polyphonic ( http://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/functions ) and so it is not good for bowed double bass correction. 



     
    Whilst what you say about Melodyne is correct, we don't know what sort of performances the OP is expecting to record.
    it could well be musical parts consisting of single, monophonic notes (not unusual with Double Bass ) in which case Essential is the perfect tool.

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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 16:14:02 (permalink)
    Yes, thank you all. I will be recording single-monophonic notes. Unless there is a bowing hand flub, there should not be more than 1 note playing at a time from the upright bass. If that happens we'll just try to punch in/out.
    I'm really doing very scaled down recordings (few tracks, instruments). Essentially 1 vocalist, acoustic guitar, and double bass. Discosure I am the singer, guitar player. So I do not conceive needing a lot of bells and/or whistles with my recording format. The plan is to utilize a Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett as my interface. I don't expect to ever need more than 2 inputs/tracks at a time.  Having said that, are there really that many advantages for me to need Platinum over Pro?
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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 16:35:41 (permalink)
    You already have the top version of Sonar for X3. I would maintain that with staying with the top version of Sonar 2015. That is now named Platinum. 

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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 16:49:10 (permalink)
    Hi. I did go from X3, to Platinum because i wanted to "stay on top" of the software development. If you are used to "the bells and whistles" from the top product, I would continue with it. Who knows when you might need them
    All advices so far is good advice.
    All the best.

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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 19:47:05 (permalink)
    I have no software @ this point.
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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 21:02:43 (permalink)
    d00mbilly
    I have no software @ this point.



    Just check the link I provided above in my first post, and see which features are appropriate for you, from that of course you can dictate what version you need. Sorry to state the obvious you probably picked that one up ages back.
     
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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/15 21:53:55 (permalink)
    Got it. Thanks all. Book 'em Dano, Murder One.
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    Re: I'm confused about Sonar versions (n00b sorry) 2015/10/17 07:43:28 (permalink)
    d00mbilly
    Got it. Thanks all. Book 'em Dano, Murder One.




     
    Uh oh. I guess that makes us all accessories.

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