I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ?

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2012/03/11 19:58:26 (permalink)

I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ?

After my install of the X1d patch, I was happily working away on current projects (mostly started in X1c) for a week,
then I started opening some of the other projects (X1c and older) I had been working on . . . "some" will not open at all (crash - run time error), some will open but when I hit play nothing happens, yet all SONAR functions still work, when clicked on ? SO . . . I rolled back to X1c (build 425) and those same projects open and play with no issues at all. Re-installed X1d patch, same problems.
 
Is anyone else experiencing this with X1d ?
 
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    Rimshot
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/11 21:21:21 (permalink)
    Not here.  What are your specs?  Did you do the install properly?

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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/11 22:02:14 (permalink)
    Rimshot -
    specs are:
    X1 Producer Expanded 32 bit
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    MAudio Delta 66

    . . . followed the install instructions carefully, the install works, Sonar X1d works, it's the backwards compatibility that's not working, but just for some projects. I thought it might be a plugin issue, but can't pinpoint which one . . . still wonder why these projects load just fine in X1c. I've scanned for VST plugins after each install . . .
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/11 22:52:37 (permalink)
    Do you have any projects that only used Cake plugins you could try?  It seems like it has to be due to a VST if it is not your install.

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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/11 23:31:14 (permalink)
    Hi Noynekker,
     
    I've had a couple of funny things happen, but I did something a "bit abnormal" which probably caused it.
     
    Anyway, here's a little trick I learned from the support over here which has helped me get things back to normal.
    It's worth a shot for you to try this one :-)
     
    '<Shift> Launch' Sonar, and you'll be prompted to "Personalize Sonar".
     
    This has helped me out a couple of times, both when there's been earlier glitches which I couldn't blame myself for,
    and when it's almost 100% certain it was my own silly fault for doing strange unmentionable things to my system.
     
    So just hold down the <Shift> key while you click on the Icon to launch Sonar, and click OK on the following prompt
    to personalize your settings.
     
    Best wishes, and let us know how you go.
     
     
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/12 02:20:52 (permalink)
    Thanks for your responses . . .
    So now I've tested this further in X1d and my issue points to plugins.
    Holding down the "Shift" key when opening a project - - - >If I don't load the VX64 Vocal plugin, the project will play, but VX64 Vocal is not the problem plugin in another project that I can't play (and I have not yet found the problem plugin for that project) 
    Again . . . If I roll back the install to X1c, all projects open and play no problem.
    I don't use any "obscure" or freebie plugins on my system, just stuff that comes from SONAR.
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/12 07:29:29 (permalink)
    I'm having the same problem. X1d runs fine. Everything works as it should accept I can't open any projects from X1c. I'm going to try Cliffr's suggestion to see if that helps.

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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/12 22:51:29 (permalink)
    Holding down the "Shift" key when opening a project - - - >If I don't load the VX64 Vocal plugin, the project will play, but VX64 Vocal is not the problem plugin

     
    Hi there,
     
    note that '<Shift> Launching' sonar is different to what you've done here - you've opened a project in safe mode which does not re-personalise (copy files and reset) sonar. Opening a project in safe mode allows you to choose whether or not to load plug-ins.
     
    To do the <Shift> Launch, hold down shift while you open/start sonar - not when you open a project.
     
    Exit sonar, hold down <Shift> and start sonar from the desktop Icon.
     
    Hope it helps you out guys, I know it has for my case.
     
     
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/12 23:11:14 (permalink)
    Cliff . . . Shift + Launch Sonar, and re-personalize settings has not made any difference on my system, some projects will open, Sonar is fully functional, except for the play button, which is kinda' crucial. I wondered if it might be the Softube Prochannel Knob, because of the dipsy doodle in the install instructions for X1d, but when I load the Sonar "Normal" template Softube Knob works just fine.

    Rolling back to X1c every time to work on a project just seems backwards.

    So far . . . it looks like only 2 of us are seeing this issue ?
    (problems loading X1c projects in X1d)
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 00:12:18 (permalink)
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    Cliff . . . Shift + Launch Sonar, and re-personalize settings has not made any difference on my system, some projects will open, Sonar is fully functional, except for the play button, which is kinda' crucial. I wondered if it might be the Softube Prochannel Knob, because of the dipsy doodle in the install instructions for X1d, but when I load the Sonar "Normal" template Softube Knob works just fine.

    Rolling back to X1c every time to work on a project just seems backwards.

    So far . . . it looks like only 2 of us are seeing this issue ?
    (problems loading X1c projects in X1d)
     
    Sorry to hear that, it's a bit of a pain then.
     
    I'd suggest you log a support case then - I've always found the forums great for sorting out issues, but sometimes it ain't
    that simple and you need the bakers to sort things out.  Those bakers are pretty darn good too.
     
    Hope you get it sorted OK - be sure to updae the thread and let us know. 
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 01:50:32 (permalink)
    Good advice Cliff . . . I've just sent in a support request, at least I have a workaround, but everytime I roll back to X1c to work on an older project . . . I really miss those fancy new colors on the PC Quad Curve EQ !
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 01:52:28 (permalink)
    I thought I had the same issue, but it turned out to be a VST trial that expired between X1C and X1D.

    Can you open the project successfully by saying 'no' to all plugins on load?

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    Problems?
    How's your latency?
    What processes are running?
    Driver crash?
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 02:12:25 (permalink)
    OSD . . . we're in each other's threads man . . . yes - if I load no plugins, project loads, and project plays. . . . but I've lost all my hard plugin work !!!
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 03:27:44 (permalink)
    Losing the plugins is not acceptable, methinks. Though in my case, it did illuminate some crummy gain-staging I did.

    When you say some of the projects load fine, but when you hit spacebar, they won't play. Is the Audio Engine lit up on the control bar at that time? I had some trouble a ways back with the engine dumping out, which left a project 'unplayable'.

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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 07:57:42 (permalink)
    Please file a problem report with tech support and attach a project file. Preferably a cwb. If its crashing we will also need the minidump to investigate the crash.

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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 07:57:43 (permalink)
    Please file a problem report with tech support and attach a project file. Preferably a cwb. If its crashing we will also need the minidump to investigate the crash.

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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 16:24:54 (permalink)
    Noel . . . I have sent the problem report to Cakwalk, as well as the crash / minidump . . . but i never saw any where where I could attach my file to upload ?
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    Re:I'm having Trouble opening and playing "some" X1c projects in X1d - anyone else ? 2012/03/13 16:26:44 (permalink)
    OSD . . . no the Audio engine is not lit up on the control bar after the project opens.
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