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I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
I've just dealt with the last Teleport Server Sampletank crash I think I f-ing stand!!! I have almost all of their libraries and they are f-ing USELESS IN 64BIT! I know, they're "working on it". Right. Of course look at all the iOS apps they keep upgrading and releasing. They've officially turned into an iOS company. I'm done. Rant mode off.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 15:00:06
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Yea, but they have that Slash tone that's all the rage ;) Hope you get things sorted
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 15:29:14
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careful , you will wake the sleeping giant ...
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 15:31:20
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musicman100 careful , you will wake the sleeping giant ... I shall fetch my sword sir.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 15:54:14
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Pardon my ignorance - what's a "teleport server Sampletank crash"?
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 16:18:30
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Rain Pardon my ignorance - what's a "teleport server Sampletank crash"? Teleport Server = Sonar's bitbridge for running 32 bit VSts in 64 Bit Sonar.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 16:22:54
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 17:00:29
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I'm an IK fan. I have, but really don't use Sampletank. Does it need JBridge? I really want the Ampeg SVX to go x64. That, and the "White", are my go to bass enhancement plugs. Patience my son, patience... T
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 17:15:22
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FWIW- I am running SampleTron on my 64bit Win7 system both in stand-a-lone and VSTi mode in Sonar X1 Studio with no problems. Note that I am not using a bridge; it runs fine as is. Have you tried it without a bridge?
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 17:23:11
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MarioD FWIW- I am running SampleTron on my 64bit Win7 system both in stand-a-lone and VSTi mode in Sonar X1 Studio with no problems. Note that I am not using a bridge; it runs fine as is. Have you tried it without a bridge? If you are using a 64 bit DAW it must use a bridging application. Bitbridge is evoked automatically in Sonar and you wont know its there until it crashes. If you are running stand alone or in a 32 bit DAW then you don't need a bridge. I don't use Sample Tank that much, but I can't say I have had any problems running it in 64 bit Sonar 8.5 using BitBridge. I don't think I have tried it in X2 yet.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 17:48:32
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AmpliTube 3 is 64 bit already
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 17:51:44
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For me it is undependable. It's a nightmare under jBridge or Bitbridge. I really think that some companies are abandoning pro computer apps and focusing on iOS. It's sad that IK is one of them. Kontakt as gone through at least 2-3 upgrades since SampleTank 3 was "announced". They keep saying it's the library. I guess they're taking a quick and dirty rompler and adding the most advanced sample library any human has ever imagined! Right.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 17:59:06
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 18:08:35
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I run Sonar X2 64bit. I have not had trouble running SampleTank; however, I rarely use it. My reason is not crashes, but eyesight. The GUI is too small to see. When I need to use it, I invoke the Windows Magnifier; but I this inconvenience is just a deterant and I usually turn to some other synth or sampler. I was very disappointed to read in another thread on this subforum that SampleTank 3 will not be out until next year. I plan on just not using the ST2.5 very much until ST3 and 64bit is here. There are just too many other good and stable and GUI readable alternatives like Kontakt or Alchemy. As someone on another thread remarked, IKM is falling behind with ST3 delays, and when or if they ever do release it, one wonders if they will have waited too long for some to stay with them. I do not like to bash IKM, but this prolonged, extended, ongoing, waiting, and waiting for years now for ST3 is a delay that is absolutely ridiculous and unwarranted. If other companies went 64 bit, why has it taken so long for IKM to do so unless it is just not a priority for them; they are loosing customers.--There--that's my rant.
post edited by cecelius2 - 2012/12/01 18:48:48
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vintagevibe
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 18:23:05
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cecelius2 I run Sonar X2 64bit. I have not had trouble running SampleTank; however, I rarely use it. My reason is not crashes, but eyesight. The GUI is too small to see. When I need to use it, I invoke the Windows Magnifier; but I this inconvenience is just a deterant and I usually turn to some other synth or sampler. I was very disappointed to read in another thread on this subforum that SampleTank 3 will not be out until next year. I plan on just not using the ST2.5 very much until ST3 and 64bit is here. There are just too many other good and stable and GUI readable alternatives like Kontakt or Alchemy. As someone on another thread remarked, IKM is falling behind with ST3 delays, and when or if they every do release it, one wonders if they will have waited too long for some to stay with them. I do not like to bash IKM, but this prolonged, extended, ongoing, waiting, and waiting for years now for ST3 is a delay that is absolutely ridiculous and unwarranted. If other companies went 64 bit, why has it taken so long for IKM to do so unless it is just not a priority for them; they are loosing customers.--There--that's my rant. Agreed. Screw the library, just give as a usable GUI that's 64bit! They choose not to do anything because all of their developers are doing iOS crap.
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vintagevibe
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 18:24:30
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vintagevibe cecelius2 I run Sonar X2 64bit. I have not had trouble running SampleTank; however, I rarely use it. My reason is not crashes, but eyesight. The GUI is too small to see. When I need to use it, I invoke the Windows Magnifier; but I this inconvenience is just a deterant and I usually turn to some other synth or sampler. I was very disappointed to read in another thread on this subforum that SampleTank 3 will not be out until next year. I plan on just not using the ST2.5 very much until ST3 and 64bit is here. There are just too many other good and stable and GUI readable alternatives like Kontakt or Alchemy. As someone on another thread remarked, IKM is falling behind with ST3 delays, and when or if they every do release it, one wonders if they will have waited too long for some to stay with them. I do not like to bash IKM, but this prolonged, extended, ongoing, waiting, and waiting for years now for ST3 is a delay that is absolutely ridiculous and unwarranted. If other companies went 64 bit, why has it taken so long for IKM to do so unless it is just not a priority for them; they are loosing customers.--There--that's my rant. Agreed. Screw the library, just give as a usable GUI that's 64bit! They choose not to do anything because all of their developers are doing iOS crap. So I'm sitting here with all of their libraries that have become worthless.
post edited by vintagevibe - 2012/12/01 18:25:46
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 18:29:15
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All my IK stuff has been blown away in favour of 64 bit alternatives from other companies. If they ever release new stuff I'll check it out but the incentive is now very, very, small because I moved on.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 19:22:49
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Glyn Barnes MarioD [sab="2522"]FWIW- I am running SampleTron on my 64bit Win7 system both in stand-a-lone and VSTi mode in Sonar X1 Studio with no problems. Note that I am not using a bridge; it runs fine as is. Have you tried it without a bridge? If you are using a 64 bit DAW it must use a bridging application. Bitbridge is evoked automatically in Sonar and you wont know its there until it crashes. If you are running stand alone or in a 32 bit DAW then you don't need a bridge. I don't use Sample Tank that much, but I can't say I have had any problems running it in 64 bit Sonar 8.5 using BitBridge. I don't think I have tried it in X2 yet. Thanx for explaining that to me. I did not know that!
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 19:25:57
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We've tested SampleTank in Sonar 64 bit and haven't had any issues. Please contact our support for 1 on 1 help. Also Ampeg SVX is now a part of the AmpliTube Custom Shop, which is 64 bit and FREE.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 19:35:54
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 20:13:59
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The giant has awakened.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 20:45:55
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IK Obi We've tested SampleTank in Sonar 64 bit and haven't had any issues. Please contact our support for 1 on 1 help. Also Ampeg SVX is now a part of the AmpliTube Custom Shop, which is 64 bit and FREE. Been there, done that, bought the T shirt. Problems keep coming up. I'm just not going to run any more 32bit plugs. It's really a shame and unfair to the owners of the libraries how IK has orphaned this app.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 21:02:46
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How many "years" has "SampleTank 3" been in the works? Bring it on!!! I hope it has a ledgable gui. If not, can you make it smaller so nobody can read it?
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 21:50:28
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Guitarpima How many "years" has "SampleTank 3" been in the works? Bring it on!!! I hope it has a ledgable gui. If not, can you make it smaller so nobody can read it? Great idea. that will relieve us all of the pain.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 22:08:54
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This issue is a dead horse... Anybody who really even gives 2 hoots any more shouldn't... IK has no intention of doing anything until all iOS things are taken care of...AND...if ANYTHING iOS has a problem, rest assured IT will get addressed FIRST... Those $2 apps that are flash in the pan are awesome! Everyone needs to plug their KEE BOARD and GEEE TAR into a phone.... I'm SURE the iPhone and iPad will easily do a 64 track piece with no hassle whatsoever... AND will handle 10,000 plugins without any crashes... It will even make you a turkey sandwich and wash the dishes and do the laundry for you...
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/01 23:22:18
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IK Obi We've tested SampleTank in Sonar 64 bit and haven't had any issues. Please contact our support for 1 on 1 help. Also Ampeg SVX is now a part of the AmpliTube Custom Shop, which is 64 bit and FREE. I feel your pain Obi. It's always the messenger that gets it. Merry Christmas.
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vintagevibe
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/02 00:23:07
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@ obi - Certainly no ill will towards you. You've been very helpful here and I assume these things are not up to you. We're just beyond frustrated.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/02 03:22:33
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have you tried it with jbridge instead ? just curious.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/02 04:35:37
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cecelius2 I run Sonar X2 64bit. I have not had trouble running SampleTank; however, I rarely use it. My reason is not crashes, but eyesight. The GUI is too small to see. When I need to use it, I invoke the Windows Magnifier; but I this inconvenience is just a deterant and I usually turn to some other synth or sampler. I think that pretty much sums up why I don't use it much. I don't think IK has totally abandoned Windows, Amplitube has had recent udates and additions and T-Racks are all up to date. But sampletank is so far behind Kontakt now they are really going to have to pull off something major for ST3 to be a success.
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Re:I'm so over IK Multimedia!!! Warning rant ahead...
2012/12/02 10:15:01
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I share your disdain for iOS apps, and your impatience for ST3. But let's not lose our objectivity... 1. I really doubt the iOS product line has had much impact on ST3 development. They are probably separate teams. 2. It's unfair to criticize a product that was released a decade before 64-bit operating systems became the norm for possible 64-bit compatibilty issues 3. It's bitbridge that's crashing, not SampleTank 4. Most projects in which ST is the main sample library can be run in 32-bit SONAR with no problems. None of which is to suggest your frustration is unjustified. I'm just trying to keep it in perspective.
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