Import audio files into ONE/SAME track?

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2014/12/12 02:23:45 (permalink)

Import audio files into ONE/SAME track?

If I drag and drop a bunch of files into X3's timeline, they will be placed in different tracks, one clip per track.
 
Is there a way to get them all lined up into the same track?
 
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    Anderton
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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/12 02:40:24 (permalink)
    By lined up, do you mean sequentially, one after another? If so, no, you can't drag in multiple files because SONAR wouldn't know the intended order if they all arrive simultaneously.

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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/12 02:46:50 (permalink)
    Anderton
    By lined up, do you mean sequentially, one after another? 



     
    Yes, that's what I mean...


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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/12 03:43:09 (permalink)
    broadcast wavs will import at their embedded timestamp, but i dunno about into a single track?

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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/12 08:55:27 (permalink)
    I have hundreds of files recorded in a tascam h4n for a audiobook. 
    Just need to drag them to one track in sonar to start editing...
    Can't believe I will have to move one by one to the same track...


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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/12 09:29:23 (permalink)
    The DR-44WL does broadcast wave time-stamping. Does the H4N? As mentioned, if you bring them all over at the same time, there is nothing to tell SONAR which file is supposed to follow which. But if they're time-stamped, then SONAR can know (assuming "Always import broadcast waves at their timestamp" is checked under Preferences > Audio Data). You can just drag them in and they'll position themselves on different tracks, but in the correct place on the timeline. Then just select all tracks, and bounce to a single track.

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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/13 05:03:53 (permalink)
    I don't know in the H4N does time-stamps.
    But I guess sonar should incorporate this basic feature when importing multiple files...
    It could ask if we want to import to one or multiple tracks...
     
    Anderton
    The DR-44WL does broadcast wave time-stamping. Does the H4N? As mentioned, if you bring them all over at the same time, there is nothing to tell SONAR which file is supposed to follow which. But if they're time-stamped, then SONAR can know (assuming "Always import broadcast waves at their timestamp" is checked under Preferences > Audio Data). You can just drag them in and they'll position themselves on different tracks, but in the correct place on the timeline. Then just select all tracks, and bounce to a single track.






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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/13 05:26:45 (permalink)
    You're glossing over an essential problem that has been pointed out to you a few times now. Let's assume for a second that what you ask for happens, and Sonar drops all files on a single track. Without any way of indexing they would end up on top of each other. Which is as bad or worse as having them on multiple tracks, right?
    So how should they be sorted? 1. Alphabetically as shown in Windows Explorer? That's probably not the order of your book and will lead you to so much searching and moving it's, again, pointless.
    2. By creation date/time? This would be better, except of course if you have edited some clips in the H4N and it changes the date/time, they would end up at the end of the project. Again, useless.
    3. By timestamp - this is the most useful (and industry standard) way because the file will have a starting time stamp. If your device supports this (and it really should), you can simply drag them into Sonar and then bounce to a single track, as Anderton said.

    So it's really not a problem of Sonar not being able to do this, it's the lack of logical organization within the files - unless your device timestamps, in which case the whole process is really easy and it's pretty irrelevant whether or not Sonar puts the files on separate tracks initially or not. It just takes like four mouseclicks to get to a single track.

    Alternatively, have you considered simply playing back the whole thing on your device and recording it into Sonar? Or bouncing the project to a single file inside the device?
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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/14 12:22:45 (permalink)
    in sony vegas, for instance, you drag files to a track and they all align in the same track...sorted by date/time.
    so I guess I'll do it in vegas instead.


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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/14 13:27:10 (permalink)
    So there's the default import, by file timestamp, rather than just piling them on top of one another.... move to the feature request forum?

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    Re: Import audio files into ONE/SAME track? 2014/12/14 20:25:48 (permalink)
    lawp
    So there's the default import, by file timestamp, rather than just piling them on top of one another.... move to the feature request forum?



    That already IS the default import option in SONAR - import at BWF time stamp - which is why we get a "why do my loops end up at 1 hour when I import them into SONAR?" thread every week or two. So no need for a feature request. I checked the H4n specs, it supports BWF time stamping although maybe this needs to be enabled, or the OP needs to enable "import at time stamp" in Sonar's preferences if it became unchecked.
     
    These threads from other H4n owners having problems might be helpful, even though they're not about Sonar.
     
    http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=4&MessageID=894879
     
    Do you have the latest firmware, which appears to fix an H4n BWF issue?
     
    http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/final-cut-suite/236283-how-do-you-get-fcp-use-timecode-wav-files-off-zoom-h4n.html
     

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