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Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
If the main window, select a track. Open PRV. It is labeled with the track name.
Open Event List: it is labeled with the track number. There is no indication that these are views of the same track.
And with the Docking foolishness, ok we leave these open while we do other stuff. Come back, look at the titles, it appears that these are two completely different and unrelated tracks.
Bug 1: Inconsistent track labeling, PRV and EL.
Bug 2: sometimes the selected track comes up by itself, sometimes it is added to the previously selected track ... can't just now duplicate it but this is a bug since sonar 5 at least ... you select a track, open a window, and there is not just the current track but also the previously selected set of tracks.
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/02/06 07:34:08
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williamcopper
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/02/06 09:45:29
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wookie I just within a few months upgraded to x3; if I bought a product that was old already, well, Cakewalk didn't tell me and I didn't know. If the current development is x4, wouldn't at least parts of it still be based on x3? Wouldn't the developers want to know what their customers perceive as bugs? Would you really want to prevent anyone except the very first to upgrade to offer bug reports? Why don't you spend some of your volunteer time verifying reports? And less showing your weight? "I'll lock your thread ...."
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/02/06 10:59:36
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That was a lot of answer for "Are we talking X3 still?". I thought he asked so he could help. If there is some history here I will just back out.
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/02/06 12:09:47
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More info on the second bug above. X3e, windows 7. Select two tracks. Open Event List -- events from both tracks correctly displayed, title tab says "Event List - Multiple Tracks". Select a different track: look at Event List. The title changes correctly to the newly selected track, but the data from the previously selected tracks remains in the event window. Open the Pick Tracks dialog: it shows only one track selected, but all the original track data is still showing in the event window. Do it a couple more times and the event list begins to show multiple selection boxes at random places.
There was a very similar bug in Sonar 3 & 5. THIS is why reporting bugs even on the next-older model is valuable. If someone had read reports about THOSE bugs, and gotten into the developer punch list, maybe new updates would be better. I'd be very willing to be that this same bug is still in Platinum ... but I'm not about to upgrade to find out.
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/02/06 13:05:30
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BassDaddy
That was a lot of answer for "Are we talking X3 still?". I thought he asked so he could help. If there is some history here I will just back out.
Thanks Bassdaddy, I was asking for that very reason, but it seems he really does not want help he would prefer to have a rant at the one person who has attempted to help. Which is fine by me as it tells me exactly how I can help him.
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/02/06 20:59:24
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Moved to Sonar forums for discussion...
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/02/06 21:29:39
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williamcopper
More info on the second bug above. X3e, windows 7. Select two tracks. Open Event List -- events from both tracks correctly displayed, title tab says "Event List - Multiple Tracks". Select a different track: look at Event List. The title changes correctly to the newly selected track, but the data from the previously selected tracks remains in the event window.
I can't reproduce this in either X3 or Platinum. The docke Event List view updates immediately with every change of selection in Pick Track, both going from multiple track to one, and vice versa. So I think you're going to have to work on that recipe if the Bakers are to have any chance of fixing it; something's missing. That said, I would wager the Event List view is way down on the list of development priorities. Only we DOSosaurs know or care what it's showing. Same goes for "Interpolate", which the Bakers wisely changed to "Find and Replace" because the combination of a text-based UI and the name "Interpolate" was just to much for the first-person-shooter generation. All kidding aside, these traditional tools can be very useful and powerful for certain particular tasks, but for the most part, I think the GUI tools have become more efficient and powerful for most tasks. If you're finding yourself in the Event List view that much, it might be time to explore some other tools and techniques. Reminds me of doing tech support for Windows 95 back in the day, and after asking a user to copy a file, hearing a flurry of keystrokes over the phone as they madly flailed away at the command prompt, rather than just dragging and dropping. 
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williamcopper
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/03/10 22:29:44
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Re: use of event list: I'd appreciate knowing ANY other way to insert a program change event into a midi track within 10-15 tempo ticks accuracy before a note. I'd appreciate knowing ANY other way to rapidly scan pitch bend values.
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Re: Inconsistent window behaviour: Select track, view in Event List and Piano Roll View
2015/03/11 04:11:25
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@Brundle.. I still spend a fair amount if time at the command prompt, sometimes it's just the quickest way!
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