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2016/01/02 16:42:45 (permalink)

Increasing Tempo While Tracking: Best Practices

Example #1:  Band goes into the studio to record a cover version of "Just What I Needed" (The Cars). Tracking individually, initially to a metronome.
 
If in the actual CARS recorded version, the verse is 125 bpm ("I don't mind you comin' here") and the musical/synth pre-chorus/interlude is 126 bpm, and the chorus is 128 bpm, how would you assist the musicians in terms of metronome setting, if the guitarists have to record first with a scratch vocal?
 
Would you set those numbers at the beginning of each section? It's not a really big bpm spread.
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Example #2:  Band is recording one of their originals. Same recording setup. Same guitarist/scratch vox first. Have tried to record him without a metronome but the tempos moves around quite a bit and drives the drummer nuts. But due to their logistics, this is the order they are locked into.
 
How would you help them? Snarky comments welcome, but have mercy, I'm doin' the best I can! :)
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Re: Increasing Tempo While Tracking: Best Practices 2016/01/02 17:53:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chamlin 2016/01/02 18:08:50
This is my daily bread-and-butter, so I feel qualified to comment.
 
It is a common misconception that it sounds natural to change tempo gradually. In fact, it
sounds better and is more natural if done cleanly. There are of course bands that always
start a song slow and speed up throughout the song - that's a different problem.
 
Example #1: Exactly as you say. Set the tempo changes in jumps, not smooth transisions.
If the band has difficulty following, try the average tempo throughout, then in post, cut the
track into its sections and set the tempo changes. Ctrl+stretch each section as needed.
 
Example #2: Been there, done that. If they cannot even keep time with each other, you have a big job on your hands.
If the guitarist/vox is moving ahead and then behind the beat in a musical way ("Diva Mode" is what I call it for want of a better term), then it is part of the musical expression and you must try convince the drummer to keep a steady beat for the "Diva" to work with.
 
But if it's just lack of ability, then you have your work cut out. Let the scratch vox do his best, then send the band to a coffee break whilst you cut up the performance into roughly stable subsections and shrink-stretch the clips to fit the timing grid.
 
Note: There is a bug currently being fixed. If you Ctrl+stretch/shrink a clip, the Clip/Snap Offset value changes from "0" to some random value. This frustrates subsequent snap-to-grid attempts. You may need to manually set them to "0" again.
post edited by jpetersen - 2016/01/02 18:16:29
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Re: Increasing Tempo While Tracking: Best Practices 2016/01/02 18:16:49 (permalink)
I concur on just making the tempo changes as needed cleanly - though if needed for a particular song - it could be accomplished in some sort of series of them (I rarely will do that, and normally opt for clean changes).
 
And, it is not easy to play in perfect time, and as noted earlier, some of that may be intentional by the guitar player, but he should also be able to say which parts are meant to be that way.  At the same time, if it is all TOO perfect, it can sound a bit artificial.  That is a common complaint about midi tracks that are sequenced in a step sequencer pattern, and folks often go back and vary both velocities and starting points for individual notes in a midi track to make it sound more 'real'.
 
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Re: Increasing Tempo While Tracking: Best Practices 2016/01/02 21:19:39 (permalink)
Thanks, guys. Both very helpful comments. Guess this means I'm going to be studying a heretofore unaddressed skill: Stretching. Have wanted to for a long time but avoided it effectively.
 
Thanks for the guidance and inspiration! Oh, and I'll send the tracks over for you to process while I'm learning.
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