Individual controls for 2 tracks going to the same soft synth

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2013/09/07 14:03:32 (permalink)

Individual controls for 2 tracks going to the same soft synth

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I am currently using X1 LE (but have x2 studio ready to go) and my question is this.
 
I recorded a midi track and ended up wanting to have the bass part in the middle of the mix and the melodic part out to the right speaker.  So to do this I copied the midi track to a new track and erased the melodic part.
 
I had used all my available soft synths (LE has a limited amount you can use) so could not just insert a new soft synth and route the new track there.  I instead wanted to run both tracks to the same soft synth as they both has the same sound but as I found out you cant control each track individually if they are going to the same soft synth.
 
Can someone help and confirm this is normal or if it's a drawback of LE X1. I would have thought that as they are two individual tracks they would have independent controls or is it because they share the same output (soft synth) they will influence each other. 
 
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    Kalle Rantaaho
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    Re: Individual controls for 2 tracks going to the same soft synth 2013/09/08 10:25:05 (permalink)
    What kind of controls are you talking about? AFAIK if the tracks are using the same MIDI-channel, all the MIDI FX and commands affect them both. For independent controls you need a multitimbral synth and have the parts on different MIDI-channels (= two instances of the same instrument inside the synth).
     
    I may be wrong, though. Anyway, it depends on what you are trying to do. 
     
     

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    Re: Individual controls for 2 tracks going to the same soft synth 2013/09/08 14:27:34 (permalink)
    There is no limit to the number of MIDI tracks that can drive a single synthesizer. However, you have to keep in mind that all events on a common MIDI channel are going to be combined into one data stream to the synth. It can work no other way, unless the synth is multi-timbral and the tracks are on separate channels, in which case the synth is effectively serving as multiple independent synthesizers.
     
    When splitting out a portion of a MIDI track into multiple tracks, it's important that the affected portions of the original are muted or slip-edited so that they're not simultaneously sending MIDI data in competition with the new tracks. That includes continuous-controller envelopes! If you're using volume automation, for example, put a jump segment in the original track with no automation nodes within the moved section.


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    Re: Individual controls for 2 tracks going to the same soft synth 2013/09/08 21:32:11 (permalink)
    Why not just bounce one of the tracks? 
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    Re: Individual controls for 2 tracks going to the same soft synth 2013/09/09 09:20:37 (permalink)
    Hey.
     
    Thanks for the replies.  I am going to give the multitimbral thing a go first and then try everything else that has been mentioned.  I may end up bouncing but I generally dont like to bounce until I am absolutely sure I have to.  Just how I like to work.
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    Re: Individual controls for 2 tracks going to the same soft synth 2013/09/11 13:51:35 (permalink)
    TTS is multi-timbral and supports 16 midi tracks into one instance of TTS in the synth rack.  Just assign each midi track to a different channel in TTS and select the patch you want to use.
     
    On my website I have some info on how to set this up under the recording section of the site..... it's specifically for MC4.... however.....it works on any of the cake DAW's.

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