Mojo3432
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Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
I know there are countless ways to get good results...however, I am building my DAW PC and would appreciate some confirmation that what I have planned for my HD configuration is correct. I plan to do this....
C: (80 GB SSD) Windows 8 OS D: (256 GB SSD) Sonar X3 Pro, BFD 3, Amplitube 3, VST dll's E: (500 GB SSD) Audio Content/ Sample Libraries / Loops F: (1 TB HD) Music Projects / Sessions and Audio Data
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Mojo3432
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/27 19:32:08
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Does anyone here have this type of setup for Sonar? Is this the best way to do it? PLEASE....I really would appreciate your input.
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mettelus
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/27 20:40:41
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I have a 240GB SSD as my O/S drive and 6 TB of magnetic media. The multiple SSD's are overkill in my opinion (I have 67GB free on my SSD and have all programs installed on it). The magnetic media is for project file storage and backups. The only recommendation to magnetic HDD's is get one with a 7200rpm spindle speed minimum. If you want to have both Win7 and Win8 available, you would still only need 2 SSD's for this. Edit: I just searched your motherboard ( http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6T_Deluxe_V2/#specifications ), and it looks like this has SATA II ports on it (3Gb/s)? Is this true? If so, the "speed boost" you get from an SSD will not be as fast as you are expecting. Just a heads up. SATA III (6Gb/s) is the fastest link from an SSD to your motherboard.
post edited by mettelus - 2013/10/27 21:00:57
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mudgel
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/27 20:41:38
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The standard most commonly seen is:
C: drive OS, programs and plugins, SSD D: drive, projects SATA 3 E: drive, samples and such SATA 3. The issue with drives D and E, is that projects and samples tend to grow quickly.
I have nearly 2TB of sample data and as much as I'd love to have it all on SSD, it's just not financially viable at this time.
With projects of course you can do quite a few projects on SSD before removing finished ones to an archiving drive (any speed) to free up your SSD drive.
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/27 20:58:14
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Make sure the motherboard you are buying supports 6gbps and has more than 2 ports....If you are going SSD to get the speed out of all of them, you should buy the fastest...and put them on the fastest ports. Just a observation. Maximus VI has 10 x sata 6gbps ports.
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Mojo3432
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/27 22:25:29
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mettelus I just searched your motherboard (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6T_Deluxe_V2/#specifications ), and it looks like this has SATA II ports on it (3Gb/s)? Is this true? If so, the "speed boost" you get from an SSD will not be as fast as you are expecting. Just a heads up. SATA III (6Gb/s) is the fastest link from an SSD to your motherboard.
Hey mettelus. Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't given that a thought. I actually built this system two years ago and now am thinking of redoing the hard drives. But this changes things with only the SATA II. Perhaps I'll wait on this upgrade until I actually need to and can afford to do it right. Thanks again.
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Mojo3432
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/27 22:32:20
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mudgel The standard most commonly seen is:
C: drive OS, programs and plugins, SSD D: drive, projects SATA 3 E: drive, samples and such SATA 3.
Hi mudgel. I actually saw this configuration quite a bit in researching it online, but I also had read in a few places that it's best to keep the OS installed on its own drive. Is that correct at all?? Also, could you please tell me the sizes of the drives you have listed? Thanks so much for your help.
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mettelus
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/27 22:37:10
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My system is pretty archaic these days but was still benchmarking #10 in July of this year (at 2 years old). The bare bones of this machine is just getting cheaper and cheaper. There was a thread posted in the X1 days you may want to check out. http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2733572 If you consider this, be SURE to get the K CPU's, not the "default" 2600 that comes up!
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mettelus
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/27 22:53:52
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Mojo3432 I actually saw this configuration quite a bit in researching it online, but I also had read in a few places that it's best to keep the OS installed on its own drive. Is that correct at all?? Also, could you please tell me the sizes of the drives you have listed? Thanks so much for your help.
No to the OS on "its own drive"... an SSD is like a massive chunk of RAM, and therefore ~300 times faster than a magnetic HDD... it will send data to the CPU as fast as it can handle it, pretty much. Just be sure to research them! You should not defrag them and there are a few other nuances to using them. The cells in them will decay over time, so some features of Windows need to be disabled. For me, I partitioned my E and F... which are physically the same drive, but I have all SONAR data on the F drive only. Spindle speed is important for data rate, as is the SATA III mentioned above.
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mudgel
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/28 03:07:29
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Keeping the OS, programs and plugins on the main hard drive and making that an SSD allows those data intensive aspects to load and run faster. I chose this method from my own research and advice, and my experience has proven it to be true. Projects on a separate drive increase data throughput as there is now another drive (with read heads) to load up data. Samples are often streamed from disc and even though it would be nice to have them all on SSD, it seems a little costly at the moment for the terabyte size that sample collections can soon reach. SATA 3 is fast enough to stream samples, go to 10krpm disc speed if you have concerns. OS disc 250 to 500 gig. I have 250 SSD on my Studio PC while I have 500 HDD 3 on my laptop where I have all sorts of programs imaginable from Office to Adobe suites and assorted other Daw, Video editors and plugins for video and audio work with only about 65% space used. Project disc 250 gig. SSD or HDD Additional projects can easily be archived to other discs. Samples 2TB or larger minimum 7200rpm rotational speed. Something common to all disc is that they should run on SATA 3 ports that is 6GB. HDD should be 7200 rpm. A limitation you may come across is how many SATA 3 ports your motherboard has. Mine only has 4. Of course if your motherboard doesn't have SATA3 ports you'll have to be content with SATA 2. Have a good back up strategy, some folks use RAID set ups but I haven't seen anything to convince me that it is of particular benefit to audio.
post edited by mudgel - 2013/10/28 03:18:29
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guigz2000
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Re: Input on my PC DAW HD configuration
2013/10/28 05:42:31
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Hello, I am a low budget (so just 1 SSD) and I have: Desktop: C: 160GB standard HDD ->OS and softwares D: 1TB standard HDD -> Sessions Z: 128GB SSD -> Sound libraries (I'll make it external) Laptop: C,D,E: 750GB hybrid HDD with multiple partitions The Z drive is "substed" form a E: directory I use visualsubst to create virtual drives. The Vst can be on the same drive as OS since they are quite small(few Megabytes) .Most of time, they won't take a long time to load. The only thing which is slow in Vst is the loading of soundbanks.I set a Vst folder on my soundbanks drive only for vsts which load a big soundbank (vstis mostly) Multiple SSDs are interesting since they use different sata ports. An SSD for sample libraries is very interesting since big soundbanks are read direct from disc. RAID is interesting,yes..A bit bothering to setup. mirror RAID (RAID1)enable to have an automatic backup.For the sessions that's very good. slice RAID (RAID0) enable to accelerate access to standard HDD and to use 2 disks as one. When on budget,you can use them to speed up system and sessions and get a bigger disk from 2 smallers. There are other RAID settings... Tip: I always put the sound banks on Z: (change this drive letter to Z) . The reason is simple: Z is mostly never used as drive letters(you'll never get 26 drives in your pc),so on any computer it will be free. That way I can easily use an external HDD to store the soundbanks, set it to Z without changing new pc config, and have my project automatically find the soundbanks when switching pc's. It's also possible to use VisualSubst to create the Z drive from a folder on any other driver.I find it to be very efficient when working both on desktop and laptop: 1 external USB3 SSD with samples,just set it to Z: and boom...you get your soundbanks loaded in you projects, on any computer, without transfering or searching.
post edited by guigz2000 - 2013/10/28 05:58:38
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