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Insert Silence
Used Sonar years ago when it was Cakewlak 9.0 (I think it was 9.0). Anyway - there was a command "Insert Silence" where you could select any section of a track and do just what it says ... insert siilence. I can;t seem to find that command in Sonar 8.5. It must be there???
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Paul Russell
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/12 20:05:31
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Insert Time/Measures
Remember to press A to select all before doing it.
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midimix
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/13 21:18:13
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No - that's not the one I am looking for. Say I have some guitar fills going - and one of them did not come out the way I want - I used to be able to highlight that fill - and use the "insert silence command and it would take the part out - not move anything at all - just flat line it so there was no sound at all in that section.
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/13 21:19:45
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No - that's not the one I am looking for. Say I have some guitar fills going - and one of them did not come out the way I want - I used to be able to highlight that fill - and use the "insert silence command and it would take the part out - not move anything at all - just flat line it so there was no sound at all in that section.
Look up MUTE (Muting Clips) in the manual. I'm pretty sure this is what you want. ANd, of course, you can always deleting the section/notes.
post edited by ba_midi - 2010/05/13 21:23:03
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/13 22:11:31
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highlight the clip. Press Q
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/13 22:19:29
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Paul Russell
highlight the clip. Press Q
He didn't say thank you for the help you offered, so I wasn't going to tell him everything ;) But he may only want to mute "part" of a clip, not the whole clip.
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/13 22:24:31
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He didn't say thank you for the help you offered, so I wasn't going to tell him everything ;) Thats why at times, I'll thank myslef just like this. Thank me! CJ
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/13 22:25:54
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He didn't say thank you for the help you offered, so I wasn't going to tell him everything ;)
Thats why at times, I'll thank myslef just like this.
Thank me!
CJ
LOL! Ya know, I don't know the OP, and maybe the OP is a nice person. But it does bother me when users help other users and it's almost taken for granted. Seems very disrespectful and not very gracious at all.
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/14 00:13:16
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Used Sonar years ago when it was Cakewlak 9.0 (I think it was 9.0). Anyway - there was a command "Insert Silence" where you could select any section of a track and do just what it says ... insert siilence.
I think you're thinking of some other application. My old copy of CoolEdit (now Adobe Audition) has a Transform > Silence command that does that. But I've been running Cakewalk products since 2.0 for DOS, and it's never had a command related to "Silence" other than Remove Silence, which deletes sections of audio that are below a specified threshold. I suppose you could set the threshold to 0dB to delete everything in the selection, but then you might as well just use the delete key. In Pro Audio 9, there wasn't any one-click command that could flatline a section of audio (other than delete). In 8.5, you can use Process > Audio > Gain, and set the sliders to -INF, and it will do what you want. But that's a destructive edit, and using the audio mute tool or a volume envelope would be more advisable
post edited by brundlefly - 2010/05/14 00:15:19
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/14 02:48:44
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The OP needs to learn how to use envelopes...Or he could use the "Split" function to remove the unwanted part...
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/14 03:01:12
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I don't have any idea about sonar (I'll have to look into it) but some other programs (PT/cubase) have a feature where you can insert "silence" as it detects the low amplitude parts and actually strips the really low stuff. Very useful. But again, I'm still not versed enough to have gotten that deep.....I'll take a look in a minute... EDIT: I remember that feature now "insert silence". I don't have cubey on this machine but I'm pretty sure it had it. I'm sure one of the other mentionings pointed that out
post edited by chrisharbin - 2010/05/14 03:04:17
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/14 03:50:36
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Requires more work as I can not get it to do anything but strip everything
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 17:55:04
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HELLO ! ! ! Sorry I didn;t respond - but I never saw any of these responses. I was working with the last version of cakewalk before they started calling it Sonar. There was definitely an "insert silence". Often I would get a singer in that would take deep breaths that the mic would pick-up - and I woul dog thru - highlight that part of the track - and insert silence. Breath gone and all is good in the world. Seems someone has stolen the "insert Silence" command.
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 18:00:18
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I think the point is that you don't need it .... just split the clip and drag the edges so the part where you want "silence" has no clip there ....
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 18:01:16
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Sometimes the "breath" on a vocal track adds to the song...Use envelopes to reduce the levels if you think that's the best thing...
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 18:38:42
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I thought the "Insert silence" as described only existed in Wavelab. The last Pro Audio I had was version #6. Don't remember it from there.
I do agree with the OP, that the "insert silence" feature he mentions is very handy, by far faster and slicker way of getting rid of a part of a clip than anything else. Splitting and slip editing means you have to bounce to clips to maintain the material in the same clip, and an envelope is much slower to do.
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 19:32:57
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+1 for very handy. Seems odd it was there then now it's not (shrug)
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 20:21:37
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Kalle Rantaaho
Splitting and slip editing means you have to bounce to clips to maintain the material in the same clip,
Why is that important to you? That is - why do you need it in the same clip? What is the advantage?
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 20:25:51
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Shhhhhh,
I just inserted silence...
Cj
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 20:39:47
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Kalle Rantaaho
Splitting and slip editing means you have to bounce to clips to maintain the material in the same clip,
Why is that important to you? That is - why do you need it in the same clip? What is the advantage?
I don't understand the not understanding :hehe: If you've got a clip, and just need to get rid of some of the stuff already mentioned, insert silence is far easier than any of those other methods. Highlight the part you want, "insert silence" and bam.......you're done :shrug: No need for automation, no need to split, move, bounce to clips......two strokes and you are done. It's a workflow thing. Again I don't understand why it was there and has somehow been removed. Why?
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 20:49:23
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I'm only questioning the "bounce to clips" part ... why do you need to do that?
As for the other, I can split and re-size clips as quick as I could select a section and do a process function to it. I guess you could use the audio gain process and pull it down to infinity to do what you want?
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 20:50:46
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Also ... you can highlight the area you want and hit the delete key .... bam, you're done! Even quicker than an "insert silence" command :-)
post edited by MatsonMusicBox - 2010/05/28 21:01:43
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 21:06:54
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I'm only questioning the "bounce to clips" part ... why do you need to do that?
As for the other, I can split and re-size clips as quick as I could select a section and do a process function to it.
Because what if it was something you wanted to duplicate? It's much easier to keep it one region/clip than to have to go through all that again.
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Re:Insert Silence
2010/05/28 21:12:14
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Duplicate as in clone the track? What would you have to "go through" again? Maybe I don't understand what you mean by "duplicate" in this context.
I think we sometimes get hung up trying to do things "the way we know" or "the way we always did it" without giving new ways a chance to prove that they might actually be better or easier.
I ask on this because there was a time when I wanted an "insert silence" type command also. After working with split clips, and especially dragging the fades, I realized it was much easier and more useful than "insert silence" ... and I've yet to discover any practical advantage the old way has. if nothing else, the "insert silence" could not fade in or out without even more processing.
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