Royal Yaksman
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Insinner8
https://soundcloud.com/michael-heslop-1/insinner8 All music and mixing by Michael Heslop All mouth noises by Royal Yaksman This song is a little bit heavier than the last one that I posted. There was anger to be excised... I feel we achieved that, but please judge for your kind selves. ***Fair warning: this song contains the unadulterated version of mofo at 2:44, so those sensitive to language please feel free to hit mute for 3 seconds. But then please un-mute and take a geeze at Mike's excellent solo! (timecode 3:18)***
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/01 12:25:53
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I did get a minuet into it, then I realised that everything was louder than everything else. When any one part took a breath or paused for some reason it sounded like the parts themselves had been recorded quite well but.....
I think the mix needs a little TLC I will keep the furry lugs open for the remix.
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Royal Yaksman
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/01 12:36:45
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Wookiee I did get a minuet into it, then I realised that everything was louder than everything else. When any one part took a breath or paused for some reason it sounded like the parts themselves had been recorded quite well but.....
I think the mix needs a little TLC I will keep the furry lugs open for the remix.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah this one had me wondering a little bit and I wasn't sure if it was tapping the limits of my cheap speakers? What you said kind of encapsulates a bit of feedback that I've gotten from others. The only problem was everyone seemed to have a different instrument that they thought was a little too prominent, so I didn't know where to start when one person thinks the vox are too loud, then the next thinks the drums are too loud, so on and so forth. Do you think it's a general levels issue, or that the sounds need to be softened a bit tonally?
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/01 12:43:20
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I would start again with the mix. Bring everything down then start with the drums and the bass. You may well need to use some surgical EQ on the Bass to create some space for the Kick.
Then bring up the guitars again using surgical EQ to create the space for each element. If you Guitars are recorded in Stereo I would bounce them to Mono as this will give you more PAN control.
Then bring up the Vox. Possible consider a global Reverb to sit each element within a similar space.
Hope that helps best Wooks
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Royal Yaksman
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/01 12:53:07
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Wookiee I would start again with the mix. Bring everything down then start with the drums and the bass. You may well need to use some surgical EQ on the Bass to create some space for the Kick.
Then bring up the guitars again using surgical EQ to create the space for each element. If you Guitars are recorded in Stereo I would bounce them to Mono as this will give you more PAN control.
Then bring up the Vox. Possible consider a global Reverb to sit each element within a similar space.
Hope that helps best Wooks
Tear down and rebuild? I had feared as much... Haha! Thanks for your input and I shall pass along your comments.
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/01 15:02:03
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Wow - full on from the start. Instruments and voices are very well recorded and performed but there's too much competition between each part. I agree to start again but you have all the elements to have a great track here
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/04 00:10:42
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What Wookie and Daryl said. Compared to your last one, this has no dynamics. Everything is just turned up to 11. Could be be a cool song buried in there. Regards, Dan
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/04 07:50:15
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Michael/Royal, This one is heavy but fun ride. I like the varied tones of the vocals, it works well to my ear. Driving guitar, bass and drums are nice and sounded well on my system. No real crits on this, it just freakin rocked! Nice job on this one.
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/04 08:49:12
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I enjoyed the guitar...great tone... and this mix seems to be in a better place...is this a "fixed" mix? I didn't get to hear it before now...
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/04 12:36:47
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I'm in the disagreement camp with everyone above Lars. What you have is spot on for the genre (IMO). Great mix.
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/08 14:20:00
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CreatingNoise Michael/Royal, This one is heavy but fun ride. I like the varied tones of the vocals, it works well to my ear. Driving guitar, bass and drums are nice and sounded well on my system. No real crits on this, it just freakin rocked! Nice job on this one.
Thanks a lot for the response! There has been a minor redo in the works, it sounds a bit warmer and the vox have been dropped just a bees whisker. I'll post it up when it's done.
post edited by Royal Yaksman - 2016/09/08 14:41:02
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/08 14:23:02
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cclarry I enjoyed the guitar...great tone... and this mix seems to be in a better place...is this a "fixed" mix? I didn't get to hear it before now...
Cheers Larry! This is still the orig. Mike has done a few tweaks, so far it's sounding a bit warmer and I think the space is a better. I'll post it up when it's done.
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/08 14:24:52
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bapu I'm in the disagreement camp with everyone above Lars. What you have is spot on for the genre (IMO). Great mix.
Haha and now we've gone and messed with it... Thanks for listening and replying!
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/12 18:00:04
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This genre is tough to mix. But I hear everything, so it works. Could use a eq cut in a lot of places to enhance the elements, but it needs more low end. You can sing.
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/21 18:39:01
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Yeah... I liked it. Hits hard from the start and never really lets up. As it should be. It was a little thin on the bottom end, but otherwise I think it suits the genre.
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Re: Insinner8
2016/09/21 21:18:28
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I don't know what I heard, which version, improved or original . . . but I'm with Bapu in that the basics are covered mix-wise. I don't think a re-polish is needed at all, mostly because those who will headbang to this don't want it too pretty, they aren't marveling at the separation of instruments with surgical eq techniques. They want a heavy rage quotient and spittle in their face. You've got it - mission f%^&$#g accomplished. cheerio, -Tom
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Re: Insinner8
2016/10/01 11:18:53
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jamesyoyo This genre is tough to mix. But I hear everything, so it works. Could use a eq cut in a lot of places to enhance the elements, but it needs more low end. You can sing.
Sorry I've been away for a bit. Cheers for listening! I believe the mastering chain has been changed now and there's a bit more space, warmth and oomph in it. Oh and thanks for referring to my screeches as singing btw! 😆
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Re: Insinner8
2016/10/01 11:22:35
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stevec Yeah... I liked it.  Hits hard from the start and never really lets up.  As it should be.    It was a little thin on the bottom end, but otherwise I think it suits the genre.Â
Thanks for taking the time to listen Steve! The new mastering chain has a bit more thud in it and the snare was swapped for a sound with a pinch more crack to it.
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Re: Insinner8
2016/10/01 11:24:39
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emeraldsoul They want a heavy rage quotient and spittle in their face. You've got it - mission f%^&$#g accomplished.
cheerio, -Tom
This rather made my day, thanks Tom!
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Re: Insinner8
2016/10/02 13:35:58
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As a vet Metal/Thrash Heavy disciple back in the day.....I agree it's in the pocket....a la Testament, Slayer...etc. Sounded right on my cans....maybe would like a tad more low end but I think for overall playback ref sources you got it. I like your "Fortunes Fading" as well ....very cool Thx for sharing ;o)
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Re: Insinner8
2016/10/02 14:09:09
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Nice shreddage going on their, all parts have been well recorded. It's not easy to mix this genre and one can easily overcook the mix. However, on the whole I think you have got it right just a slight cut as bassjoker has suggested but that I think is one of taste.
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Re: Insinner8
2016/10/03 04:17:37
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I enjoyed that... I must be listening to the latest mix? Like the Corey like spoken vocals at the beginning (I'm a big fan of Slipknot and Stone Sour).
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