Inspector on a Laptop

I'm using X1 on a laptop. The inspector is cut off at the top even with the control bar turned off. I can find no way to scroll the inspector. A scroll bar would be ideal for use on my laptop. I see where the display modules on the inspector can be turned off and on. What am I missing.

Well, that's a drag rabeach.  Thegeek is probably right, that your screen resolution is less than the minimum requirement.  I'm running on a laptop with a resolution of 1440 X 900, and the top of my inspector is chopped off, but pushing "C" to temporarily hide the control bar lets me see what I'm missing - It's only the Trim pot I'm missing with the control bar in place. 

For some reason, there's a large empty space above the FX bin, just as big as the FX bin which is wasted space.  That could have been used for the trim pot, and we wouldn't have this problem.  But this spread out, wasted space look is rather The Look of X1 in its current incarnation.

RB

unusable on less than 1600*1080 if you use the inspector and channel strip ....cooling on 1400*900 if not ...stay away if above ...

i asked this on request : mouse scrool support for inspector and channel strip knobs...

if you're serious about your passion go with a high reso laptop next time 1600*900 if 15" , 1920*1200 if 17"

yep Brandon , my precision 15" got a full hd but i do find high resolution better on 17" , less eye pain , on a 15" , 1600 is way more confortable...
all a question of toaste ...

Here - My laptop's resolution is 1440 X 900.  The top of the Inspector is chopped off, but it's no big deal.  I click "C" to temporarily turn off the Control bar and see the rest of the Inspector.  As I said earlier, all that's up there is the Trim control.

EDIT:  The screen shots I put up last night are of the Inspector for a MIDI track.  The wasted space is unavoidable really because on an audio track, the EQ window fills up that space.  I'm not too impressed with my own point.   - But it remains that on a laptop you can push "C" to temporarily take the Control bar off the screen, and then at least on my resolution, you can see all controls on the Inspectors.

Top of the Inspector chopped off--and notice the useless wasted space.  If that wasn't there, we'd be able to see the top of the Inspector at these lower resolutions:



And here's the Inspector with the Control bar temporarily hidden - all that's now shown that wasn't before is the Trim pot.  This is not a big deal.  BUT without the wasted space on the Inspector's GUI, we wouldn't have to do anything to see the whole thing:



Randy B.

Grem


Yeah Randy, I saw that tip that Brandon was talking about on how to close/open CB. That helps.

I think it would be better with a scroll bar, don't you think? Or am I asking for too much for just one or two users?

Hi, Grem - Well, there would be far more than one or two users involved.  My laptop isn't all that old, and it's a top of the line HP laptop.  It's resolution is 1400 X 900 which is not small, in fact it's average.  Have you looked at your friends' computers with higher resolutions? - It's gettin' crazy mon.  Things are looking smaller and smaller on computer monitors because people think they have to get higher and higher resolutions, but it doesn't make much sense.  On most sites, they're left squinting to read what's there. 

I'm sorry to see developers catering to that trend for higher and higher resolutions- It doesn't matter if you have a higher resolution when people keep making their graphics larger and larger, like in X1.  It makes things just the same as if people would have stayed at a lower resolution and developers would have kept their graphics smaller!  Crazy.  It's like - "OK, you want more and more pixels on your screen--then to compensate for that, we'll just keep making our graphics take up more and more pixels"--it makes it all the same as before, but meanwhile, people on more normal resolutions get a bit screwed.

But this thing we're talking about in X1 is really no big deal.  Use "C" to make the Control bar disappear when you want.  It's a good thing to do anyway, using "C," to clear up screen real estate when you're doing tasks, since you don't always have to have that Control bar at the ready.

Bad design though is obvious in my screen shots.  Why are there these huge blank spaces above the FX bins, just as large as the bins, with nothing going on in them?--and then above that is the little Trim knob.  That Trim should obviously be lowered into that wasted space.  If it was, people on average laptop resolutions like me would always see everything without having to do anything.  --- It's a bit much that we have to do extra key strokes to make up for this wasted-space, overly large design, don't you think?

Randy B.

Yes Randy I agree that it makes no sense with the resolution getting higher and higher and fonts getting smaller and smaller! And in your screen shots something about the strips looked funny. Then I realized they were MIDI tracks. As I mixing a project I haven't used any MIDI tracks yet! So I didn't really understand the wasted space till I clicked a MIDI track. It's not as bad with audio tracks.

So even if your monitor meets the minimum resolution requirements the inspector is cut off. Then it would seem the only solution is a scroll bar. That or raise the minimum resolution requirements.

Randy, unless I am mistaken I believe that is where the Pro Channel belongs in X1 Producer. I don't have my DAW open right now but I'm pretty sure thats what goes there.

I'm running a laptop whose resolution is 1280x800 and my strip is cut off at the top. Good to know how to turn off the control bar, that should help for now.

rabeach


Thanks Gentlemen. X1  minimum screen resolution 1280x800
my screen resolution 1366x768

And that is the mainstream screen resolution at the moment. Remember, A laptop is eh....a laptop so bigger screens also mean less portable....

higher resolution means smaller fonts/ graphics...So, just sayng: go for a higher resolution is NOT always a solution.

I want to stay portable and my eyes are not getting better as I get older (almost 50 now).

It is ridiculous to make a program UNUSABLE at this resolution (elements chopped of/ out of reach...)....I get it that more is better and less is or will be not comfortable, but setting a minimum requirement above mainstream is quite bizarre....

So...I guess that means no sonar X1 for me...

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
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You can actually get 1920x1200 (and 1080) 15" laptops as well (been traveling with one for probably 4 years now as my main demo laptop).

1600x1050(or 900) is doable as well, but IMO anything less is not really enough screen real-estate for comfortable use of a main DAW - and not just X1, but in general.

Brandon, I don't want to be a kvetch, but with the multidock, screensets, and hiding of objects not always needed, I would have thought that X1 would be more usable on a laptop than 8.5.  I understand one has to keep up with technology, but I'm feeling some "mild discomfort". 


Perhaps the much anticipated X1A patch will provide some relief.