Inspiration?

Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
Author
Mesh
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 27360
  • Joined: 2009/11/27 14:08:08
  • Location: Online right here!
  • Status: offline
2012/05/01 12:22:28 (permalink)

Inspiration?

How do you get your inspiration that motivates you to start the songwriting process? Firing up the DAW without any preconceived ideas and start from scratch? Noodling around with your guitar, keyboard, or (for some) your Alembic? A melody that's already in your head in which you start recording piece by piece? 
 
Inquiery minds want to know....
 

Platinum Gaming DAW: AsRock Z77 Overclock Formula
I7 3770k @ 4.5GHz : 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X
250GB OS SSD : 3TB HDD : 1TB Sample HDD
Win 10 Pro x 64 : NH-D14 CPU Cooler 
HIS IceQ  2GB HD 7870
Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
The_Forum_Monkeys
#1

34 Replies Related Threads

    UbiquitousBubba
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 8912
    • Joined: 2008/07/09 16:55:12
    • Location: Everywhere Else
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 12:31:08 (permalink)
    I have to shut off everything.  No stereo, TV, PC, phone, etc.  I can't listen to anything else when I'm working on a song.  I may start with a bass line or a drum part, but I'll build it out mentally until I've got every part.  If I can't finish the song, I'll file that segment away and let the subconscious work on it.  Sometimes, I'll get that kick from the nether reaches of my mind that tells me that a part I've ruminated on for months has just been finished.

    I've been told my process is not normal.
    #2
    Starise
    Max Output Level: -0.3 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 7563
    • Joined: 2007/04/07 17:23:02
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 12:40:20 (permalink)
     I know a lot of people start off a project with a beat and go on from there. I have a ton of beats  and kits and for some reason none of them click with anything I try to do lately. The beats were never made with a concrete idea  in mind the way say a real drummer would react with a group. There is something missing, so my best moments have been just firing up Sonar and playing something. Sometimes I'll hear something else to add to it or put my own beat to it.

     Really the best way for me is to sit down rested and not concerned about anything and play what I'm feeling at the time.If I'm not feeling anything I don't try it. To force anything sounds forced in the recording. So I am a melody guy mostly and i build from there. If I can make percussion or drums fit it then ok, but not the other way around usually.

     

     

    Intel 5820K O.C. 4.4ghz, ASRock Extreme 4 LGA 2011-v3, 16 gig DDR4, ,
    3 x Samsung SATA III 500gb SSD, 2X 1 Samsung 1tb 7200rpm outboard, Win 10 64bit, 
    Laptop HP Omen i7 16gb 2/sdd with Focusrite interface.
     CbB, Studio One 4 Pro, Mixcraft 8, Ableton Live 10 
     
     www.soundcloud.com/starise
     
     
     
    Twitter @Rodein
     
    #3
    jamesg1213
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 21760
    • Joined: 2006/04/18 14:42:48
    • Location: SW Scotland
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 12:40:56 (permalink)
    Mesh

    Firing up the DAW without any preconceived ideas and start from scratch?

    Never this.

    Noodling around with your guitar

    This. I try and get the whole thing laid out in some form before I record anything, otherwise it's the kiss of overdub death.


     




     
    Jyemz
     
     
     



    Thrombold's Patented Brisk Weather Pantaloonettes with Inclementometer
    #4
    Rain
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 9736
    • Joined: 2003/11/07 05:10:12
    • Location: Las Vegas
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 13:01:24 (permalink)
    I just write, routinely. 

    It's easier for me I start to think creatively, if I'm constantly in it. Of course, a large portion of what I do doesn't really deserve to see the light of day BUT it's part of the process. Makes it easier for me to hear what's in the chords, what's hiding inside and to carve it out, a bit like a sculptor, manipulating blocks of stones until he sees what's in it.

    What's uninspired stays off the record - but you can still learn a whole lot from it. 

    Otherwise, I seem to get a lot of my ideas in the shower, humming freely. But the routine helps put me in a mood where I'm receptive enough for those things to happen.





    TCB - Tea, Cats, Books...
    #5
    RobertB
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 11256
    • Joined: 2005/11/19 23:40:50
    • Location: Fort Worth, Texas
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 13:17:05 (permalink)
    Mesh

    Firing up the DAW without any preconceived ideas and start from scratch? Noodling around with your guitar, keyboard...

     

    For me, I'd say that's pretty much it.
    In all honesty, I am relatively undesciplined. I generally noodle with a guitar or explore variuos synth sounds.
    If I stumble across a riff that I really like, or something suggests itself, I'll run with it. As an idea gels, I get more focused.
    As a rule, my songs are more the result of a happy accident than a preconcieved notion.
    I've also noticed that I get easily distracted if I try to listen to other stuff while I am working on a project.
    Hence my long absences from the Songs forum. I don't even listen to the radio in the van during the day.
    When I was working out of my personal van, I could put my tracks on a thumb drive, and listen to them throughout the day. I can't do that in the company van.


    My Soundclick Page
    SONAR Professional, X3eStudio,W7 64bit, AMD Athlon IIx4 2.8Ghz, 4GB RAM, 64bit, AKAI EIE Pro, Nektar Impact LX61,Alesis DM6,Alesis ControlPad,Yamaha MG10/2,Alesis M1Mk2 monitors,Samson Servo300,assorted guitars,Lava Lamp

    Shimozu-Kushiari or Bob
    #6
    craigb
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 41704
    • Joined: 2009/01/28 23:13:04
    • Location: The Pacific Northwestshire
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 13:22:16 (permalink)
    Mesh


    How do you get your inspiration that motivates you to start the songwriting process? Firing up the DAW without any preconceived ideas and start from scratch? Noodling around with your guitar, keyboard, or (for some) your Alembic? A melody that's already in your head in which you start recording piece by piece? 
     
    Inquiery minds want to know....
     


    Alembic???  Who the heck has one of those???

     
    Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
    #7
    trimph1
    Max Output Level: -12 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 6348
    • Joined: 2010/09/07 19:20:06
    • Location: London ON
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 13:28:51 (permalink)
    doing this....



    Sometimes taking pictures can inspire me as well...

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

    Bushpianos
    #8
    drumstixkev
    Max Output Level: -48 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2709
    • Joined: 2007/09/08 10:41:32
    • Location: CHICAGO
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 18:57:54 (permalink)
    I always have great ideas for tunes in my head at work. But when I get to the studio NOTHING! 

    VoxBoxStudio music made with SONAR & SONiCA AUDIO LAB computers.   Website http://drumstixkev.wix.com/voxboxstudio 

    #9
    Guitarhacker
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 24398
    • Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
    • Location: NC
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 19:48:23 (permalink)
    Some songs come from ideas for a great lyric hook or a title that sounds really good.  Quite a few of the songs I have written were started like that. 

    Sometimes I send them to my co-writer and she comes back with some good lyrics and that fuels the process. 

    Messing on the guitar or keyboard doesn't really get me too many ideas. 

    Listening to songs other people write will sometimes inspire me. Jimmy Gentry and a song he wrote inspired a song that Pat & I wrote called....That Ought to Count for Something...... I sent his song to my co-writer with explicit instruction not to copy anything in Jimmy's song, but to use it as a guide for whatever idea she came up with. One day later she sent me the lyrical idea and I started working it into a song with her.  

    Sometimes I will fire up Band in the Box and start messing around with patterns in it and something interesting develops. Sometimes not...... but quite a few of my songs were inspired and created in this manner. 

    I don't set down to write very often with just a goal of writing a song, although that has happened too.  I am a TAXI member and every now and then, looking through the listings, I see something that sparks an idea. I take the info they placed into the listing describing what the director is wanting and I will write something based on that. This has turned up some interesting songs.   Footsteps in the Hall and Just another Rainy day are examples of tunes that were written from a TAXI listing..... and both were started and completed in just a few (2-3) days max..... from  an idea then start to mastered. 

    I can say truthfully that I never fire up the DAW and use it as a writing tool. When the DAW gets fired up, the song is already together and 99% finished. It might have lyrical edits left at that point.  I'm not saying that you should not use the DAW if that works for you, it's just not the way I write. 

    No matter how you get the inspiration, the important thing is that you get it. And then what you do with it. 
    post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/05/01 19:51:19

    My website & music: www.herbhartley.com

    MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW   
    Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface


    BMI/NSAI

    "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer 
    #10
    IK Obi
    Max Output Level: -60 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1549
    • Joined: 2011/02/22 20:25:48
    • Location: Salt Lake City, UT
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 20:09:14 (permalink)
    I constantly record ideas on my iPod Touch as I go. Then when I want to create I fire up my DAW, load in a few MP3's and start making these weird hummed melodies, rhythms and musical ideas into something that makes sense musically.
    #11
    foxwolfen
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 8256
    • Joined: 2008/03/29 23:41:47
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 20:18:47 (permalink)
    Noodling mostly.

    A scientist knows more & more about less & less till he knows everything about nothing, while a philosopher knows less & less about more & more till he knows nothing about everything.

    Composers Forum
    #12
    Jonbouy
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 22562
    • Joined: 2008/04/14 13:47:39
    • Location: England's Sunshine South Coast
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 20:20:55 (permalink)
    Pretty much all the ways you describe Mesh.

    I'm probably closer to Robert's description than any thing.

    Sometimes I'll load up an app and I'll just dive into some idea straight away, sometimes I'll get a melody snippet in my head, sometimes I'll pick up a previously saved idea that sparks me off when I listen to it again, sometimes I'll just enjoy something that comes from a bit of keyboard noodling.

    I generally have far more ideas down than I have desire in seeing any of them through to finished product so maybe inspiration isn't a problem as much as discipline following through with those initial ideas is.

    "We can't do anything to change the world until capitalism crumbles.
    In the meantime we should all go shopping to console ourselves" - Banksy
    #13
    spacealf
    Max Output Level: -54 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2133
    • Joined: 2010/11/18 17:44:34
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 21:01:43 (permalink)
    Ah, ya, I guess, okay, sure I suppose, about what has been posted already.

     
     
    #14
    daryl1968
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10984
    • Joined: 2010/06/01 22:51:43
    • Location: Englishman in deepest, darkest Wales
    • Status: offline
    bapu
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 86000
    • Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
    • Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
    • Status: offline
    Wookiee
    Rrrrugh arah-ah-woof?
    • Total Posts : 13306
    • Joined: 2007/01/16 06:19:43
    • Location: Akahaocwora - Village Yoh Kay
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 21:29:54 (permalink)
    For my own stuff mainly I fiddle/noodle about until something interesting finds its way to my finger tips.

    On the very rare occasions I have an idea for a piece it usually ends being something completely different.

    Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.
    Karma has a way of finding its own way home.
    Primary, i7 8700K 16Gigs Ram, 3x500gb SSD's 2TB Backup HHD Saffire Pro 40. Win 10 64Bit
    Secondary  i7 4790K, 32GB Ram, 500Gb SSD OS/Prog's, 1TB Audio, 1TB Samples HHD AudioBox USB, Win 10 64Bit
    CbB, Adam's A7x's - Event 20/20's, Arturia V6, Korg Digital Legacy, Softube Modular, Arturia Keylab-88, USB-MidiSport 8x8 
    #17
    daryl1968
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10984
    • Joined: 2010/06/01 22:51:43
    • Location: Englishman in deepest, darkest Wales
    • Status: offline
    bapu
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 86000
    • Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
    • Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 21:35:36 (permalink)
    daryl1968


    bapu


    arse

    yes, that too

    Good. I was worried you had strayed.
    #19
    daryl1968
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10984
    • Joined: 2010/06/01 22:51:43
    • Location: Englishman in deepest, darkest Wales
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 21:47:18 (permalink)
    bapu


    daryl1968


    bapu


    arse

    yes, that too

    Good. I was worried you had strayed.
    the drugs remark was a bit irresponsible (sorry kids). Actually I don't do drugs and I don't drink anymore.
     
     
     
    I don't drink any less either.
    #20
    bapu
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 86000
    • Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
    • Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 21:49:03 (permalink)
    daryl1968


    bapu


    arse

    yes, that too

    Inspiration or Motivation?
    #21
    daryl1968
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10984
    • Joined: 2010/06/01 22:51:43
    • Location: Englishman in deepest, darkest Wales
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 21:54:42 (permalink)
    bapu


    daryl1968


    bapu


    arse

    yes, that too

    Inspiration or Motivation?
    you know what Bapu, joking apart, I feel like I am in a very creative place at the moment.
    I am writing songs for the first time in a while and really enjoying it. How's that book going? 
    #22
    trimph1
    Max Output Level: -12 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 6348
    • Joined: 2010/09/07 19:20:06
    • Location: London ON
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/01 22:38:09 (permalink)

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

    Bushpianos
    #23
    kson
    Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 540
    • Joined: 2008/12/12 10:30:44
    • Location: Austin, TX
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/02 00:32:15 (permalink)
    Most times I just start playing the keys. If nothing comes out, I grab a fakebook or various sheet music and jack some chords from songs and play around with them. If nothing comes after that, I start messing around with sounds from Omnisphere or some other VST. If nothing comes after that, I turn on my XBox and call it a day.
    #24
    webbs hill studio
    Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 742
    • Joined: 2006/02/01 02:04:12
    • Location: Buninyong,Australia
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/02 01:07:21 (permalink)
    i`m with Starise-i start with the drums.
    for our side project i chose my favourite songs by my favourite drummers and recorded the drums while playing along with them-after a few beers my mate and i pick a drumtrack at random and jam on it and once the melody and riffage are established we present it to the bass player and drummer at "rehearsal" for them to interpret their own way.
    the beauty of the random selection is that the song structures(verse chorus tempo etc) are established and you have a parameter to fill and it`s a hell of a lot more fun than programming a drum machine.
    it used to frustrate me that i couldn`t "write songs" on my own until i realised a band is the sum of it`s parts and that i could contribute in my own way.
    i think it was Leonard Cohen who said he`s been writing the same song all his life,don`t quote me though
    cheers




    Solar Powered Sonar 2,5,7.2, 8.5.3 
    Stealth Audio by Vin Curigliano              
    Intel I7 2600 @3.8GHz ,P67A(rev3)8gb DDR3, 3x1tb WD , WIN 7 PRO 64 SP1,
    Mackie Onyx 1640F, Focusrite Sapphire 6,Sapphire Liquid 56 and Octopre MK11)ART S8,4x20'Viewsonic ,Alesis M1 MKII ,Richter Dragons MK4,Shure,Rodes,Sennheiser,AKG,Fender,Gibson,Peavy,Marshall,Ampeg,Roland,Bose,,Yamaha,Rogers,Pearl,Behringer,,,,,,,,                  
    #25
    craigb
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 41704
    • Joined: 2009/01/28 23:13:04
    • Location: The Pacific Northwestshire
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/02 05:05:51 (permalink)
    daryl1968


    bapu


    daryl1968


    bapu


    arse

    yes, that too

    Good. I was worried you had strayed.
    the drugs remark was a bit irresponsible (sorry kids). Actually I don't do drugs and I don't drink anymore.
     
     
     
    I don't drink any less either.

    What a sell out!  Well, at least you have a prize-winning blue peter.  
     
    Personally, I have no problems admitting that halucinagens have contributed to my inspirations in the past.
     


     
    Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
    #26
    Starise
    Max Output Level: -0.3 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 7563
    • Joined: 2007/04/07 17:23:02
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/02 08:50:22 (permalink)
    trimph1


    doing this....



    Sometimes taking pictures can inspire me as well...


      I knew I was missing something. I NEED A CAT!!!.....preferably one with a sense of rhythm. Just funnin' wit ya trimph1. I think animals contribute so much to our lives.





    Intel 5820K O.C. 4.4ghz, ASRock Extreme 4 LGA 2011-v3, 16 gig DDR4, ,
    3 x Samsung SATA III 500gb SSD, 2X 1 Samsung 1tb 7200rpm outboard, Win 10 64bit, 
    Laptop HP Omen i7 16gb 2/sdd with Focusrite interface.
     CbB, Studio One 4 Pro, Mixcraft 8, Ableton Live 10 
     
     www.soundcloud.com/starise
     
     
     
    Twitter @Rodein
     
    #27
    Guitarhacker
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 24398
    • Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
    • Location: NC
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/02 09:19:05 (permalink)
    If you normally write with a guitar..... 

    try writing with a piano or bass, or drums. The difference puts you into unfamiliar territory and your brain has to think differently and that causes new possibilities to surface, and often provides the inspiration for something totally different.  

    My website & music: www.herbhartley.com

    MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW   
    Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface


    BMI/NSAI

    "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer 
    #28
    bapu
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 86000
    • Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
    • Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/02 10:46:59 (permalink)
    Herb,

    I don't know any chords on the drums.
    #29
    Karyn
    Ma-Ma
    • Total Posts : 9200
    • Joined: 2009/01/30 08:03:10
    • Location: Lincoln, England.
    • Status: offline
    Re:Inspiration? 2012/05/02 10:55:06 (permalink)
    Don't you have an Am drum?

    Mekashi Futo
    Get 10% off all Waves plugins.
    Current DAW.  i7-950, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 12Gb RAM, 1Tb SSD, 2x2Tb HDD, nVidia GTX 260, Antec 1000W psu, Win7 64bit, Studio 192, Digimax FS, KRK RP8G2, Sonar Platinum

    #30
    Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1