Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work.

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Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work.

Has anyone tried to install any Waves products in Sonar 8? Whenever I try to install Waves, everything installs just fine, however when Sonar does a VST scan, I get a window to pop up when it gets to the waves .dll that wants me to point to my pluggins folder. When I point to my pluggins folder and press ok, the window closes and then re-appears again with the same request. It just keeps bouncing back to a folder where there are absolutely no waves products.
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    RE: Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work. 2008/11/24 09:40:53 (permalink)
    No - but I just ordered waves and expecting it in a couple days, so very interested here. If you get no responses, I'll let you know how my install goes.
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    RE: Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work. 2008/11/24 13:03:33 (permalink)
    Can you verify that the waves plug-ins are in the correct folder?

    What folder did they install to? Their own default choice? Or did you specifically install them in a Cakewalk VST folder?

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    RE: Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work. 2008/11/24 14:45:56 (permalink)
    I have the Waves Mercury bundle and it works fine in sonar 7 and sonar 8.02. Did you install the VST or DX versions? I installed mine in the c drive (program drive) in the folder with all the other cakewalk plugins. I thinks its C;/ programs/sonar8/VST folder. Its something like that.
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    Re:Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work. 2009/11/04 05:27:44 (permalink)
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    Has anyone tried to install any Waves products in Sonar 8? Whenever I try to install Waves, everything installs just fine, however when Sonar does a VST scan, I get a window to pop up when it gets to the waves .dll that wants me to point to my pluggins folder. When I point to my pluggins folder and press ok, the window closes and then re-appears again with the same request. It just keeps bouncing back to a folder where there are absolutely no waves products.


    I have the same problem. Any ideas how to solve?
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    Re:Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work. 2009/11/04 07:10:01 (permalink)
    I don't have a resolution. I sold all my waves stuff.  I've just had issue after issue with Waves support and I gave up.  Waves Support is the worst support on this planet.
     
    That's why I hate it when folks on this forum criticize Cakewalk.  Waves actually removed their forum.  There is no help over there at waves if their product does not work.
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    Re:Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work. 2009/11/04 07:36:22 (permalink)
    Thats a shame, cause your missing out on some nice plugins
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    Re:Installing waves products in Sonar 8.0.2 does not work. 2009/11/04 08:17:57 (permalink)
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    Thats a shame, cause your missing out on some nice plugins
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    Ive gone to Universal Audio. I have the new Universal Audio Solo Laptop Express Card. No CPU drain on my computer at all. I have fallen in love with their support, but most of all, their pluggins are PERFECT models of the vintage hardware that were used to produce hundreds of songs in the early 70's and 80's. I tried and tried to get that out of waves, but really couldn't.  Waves is a great product, but the results were just too concrete and exact. I remember the feel of a signal going through a tube back in the day. The warmth and smoothness of that sound could not be re-produced in solid state without spending tons of money and research. Well, Universal Audio did the reasearch for me.
     
    Remember back in the day when we recorded to tape? If I pushed the signal above 0db I really wouldn't need a compressor because the Reel-to-Reel tape would create what's known in the industry as a "bump". This is where the tape itself actually stretched out ever-so-slightly due to the high voltage on the recording heads. When I went back and re-wound my tape, I could actually see where the signal was HOT because the tape was actually wavy.  It was so hard to clip a signal using "tubes and tape" (as we used to call it) because the actual physical media wouldn't let the signal clip. We didn't know it at the time that there was a built in compressor in tape that we didn't realize weas there.  The sound that was produced by the "bump" was unparalled. It was wonderful. Universal Audio has a Fatso JR/Sr Analog Tape Simulator that is astounding. When I first heard it, it immediately took me back to those good old days of true Analog Sound. Now a days, when a signal exceeds 0db by even a smidge in WAVES, you get this noise that's absolutely horrible. Then you need a compressor and gates and limiters and all of this stuff to protect yourself from your own music.
    And their EMT 250 Classic Reverberator is equally amazing. I don't know how they did it, but I'm sorry, it blows my Diamond Waves bundle out of the water - with NO LOAD on my CPU.
     
    I won't go into Universal Audio's  Neve collection. Its phenominal.
     
    I didn't have a problem with Waves as far as what they said their products would do. Their compressors compressed and their limiters limited and their reverbs reverbed. Waves delivered what they advertised - sort-a-speak. Its just that Universal Audio advertises a greater result and delivers a greater product. Right now in my recordings I don't need a ton of pluggins. I other words I don't need 17 compressor pluggins - all doing pretty much the same thing.
     
    For example, I wanted that hardware reverb unit that Phill Collins used on the XYZ album. I found out that he used a $20,000 EMT 250 reverb. Well, Universal Audio some kind of way went into their labs and produced Phills'  $20,000   "EMT® 250 reverb"  perfectly. 
    Not just a plugin that reverbs and has a lot of buttons. 
     
    I think everyone gets the picture of what I'm saying.
     
    http://mixonline.com/TECnology-Hall-of-Fame/1976-EMT-reverb/ if you want more info on the original EMT250 reverb.
     
    http://www.uaudio.com/products/software/emt250/index.html if you want more info on the Universal Audios EMT250.
     
     
    post edited by gtgarner - 2009/11/04 08:30:39
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