Instrument Definitions

Best if you can take the instrument definitions from your old machine. Otherwise, you will need to add the missing banks and patch names/banks by hand. Maybe last time you found a JV-1080 .ins file on the web somewhere and imported it.

Once you have all the banks and patches in the instrument database, they will be available to select in your bank and patch selection widgets or bank/patch events. Also, you can browse the whole patch database for a given instrument from the Patch Browser button in the Track Inspector or the Insert > Bank/Patch Change dialog box.

Bill B.

You have to select the bank from the list. Its possible the INS file doesn't have the Expansion bank. Open the INS file with Notepad and look through it. 

Ok--thanks.  Perhaps I had a combination *.ins file.  I will check the old machine and if I can't recover the files, I will create some by combining the various expansion card files with the base instrument files.

By the way, I am having some odd behavior.  The Tyros2 accepts the patch changes fine; the JV, not so much.  I set one port up specifically for the JV-1080 and used the Pop Card ins definition since I need a sound from the card (what you call the long-winded approach).  The JV is playing the MIDI notes, but is not setting to the right instruments.  I have checked the Bank and Patch numbers 20 times--I looked at the documentation but know them by heart anyway.  Instead of a Pedal Steel, I am getting some kind of saw-tooth synth pad.  I finally hung it up after two hours of going in circles last night.

This is a big deal because I am importing/upgrading a project that uses that sound on 8 songs!

I could use the Fantom VS pedal steel, but it is WAY different and won't fit some of the tracks.  I hope later I will snap to some simple thing I am overlooking but right now I am baffled.

Naturally, I soloed the tracks etc to make sure the JV wasn't picking up a MIDI patch change from another track, even though it should be on its own port.  Unless, of course, there is something odd about the way a VI (Ivory, Vienna, or Fab Four) sets its sounds and there is a device conflict...seems unlikely, however.

You might look here:
http://www.cakewalknet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=48

Hello,

I've recently bought Sonar, and so am pretty much a novice, but have managed to get it talking to both my Roland JV-1080, and my Kurzweil K2600.

For both instruments I used Sonar to import the relevant definitions from the Roland.ins & Kurzweil.ins files that came with the software, and then edited the Master.ins by hand (using notepad). I'll do the JV first:

The Roland.ins file contains patch lists for the expansion boards as well as the preset banks, but they are defined as separate instruments. They also won't work if you import them as-is because the bank select numbers aren't specified.

In the instrument definitions section of Roland.ins you have the following:

[Roland JV-1080:Patch]
Patch[10368]=JV/XP PR-A
Patch[10369]=JV/XP PR-B
Patch[10370]=JV/XP PR-C
Patch[10371]=JV/XP PR-D/GM
Patch[10752]=XP-A1
Patch[10753]=XP-A2
Patch[10754]=XP-B1
Patch[10755]=XP-B2
Patch[10756]=XP-C1
Patch[10757]=XP-C2
Patch[10758]=XP-D1
Patch[10759]=XP-D2
Patch[10240]=JV-1080 User
Patch[{asterisk}]=1..128

...and a bit further down (I only have the vintage board, so I'll use that as the example):

[Roland SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth Expansion]
Patch[0]=SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth 1-128
Patch[1]=SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth 129-255

The line "Patch[10752]=XP-A1" refers to the first expansion board slot (first 128 patches), and points to a section in the patch definitions (top part of the .ins file) that has no patches defined. You need to change this line to:

Patch[10752]=SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth 1-128

Similarly the following line:

Patch[10753]=SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth 129-255

Obviously, other / additional expansion board bank names would replace XP-B1, XP-B2, etc.

For the user bank, I exported a patch dump using ChangeIt!, copied the patch names from that programme, and pasted them into the Master.ins file to replace the factory set ones with those I've programmed over the years.

Note that while experimenting with bank select numbers, I discovered the right one for my Data card. I created a new section in the patch definitions for the card.

The relevant section of my Master.ins file now looks like this:

[Roland JV-1080:Patch]
Patch[10240]=JV-1080 User
Patch[10368]=JV/XP PR-A
Patch[10369]=JV/XP PR-B
Patch[10370]=JV/XP PR-C
Patch[10371]=JV/XP PR-D/GM
Patch[10496]=JV-1080 Data Card
Patch[10752]=SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth 1-128
Patch[10753]=SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth 129-255

Hope this is useful, and at least saves some time for anyone else trying to do the same thing.

Piers.