edpdx1
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Instrument definition file.
Hi, I need help with writing an ins. file for my Roland Juno DS. I have downloaded the MIDI implementation chart for my model and a tutorial from Tweakheads, but I still confused. Thanks, Ed
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 12:02:05
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I might be able to help. Have you looked at any examples of ins files? They are pretty straightforward. I have a few Roland one's I've done myself if you want me to send them to you.
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 12:48:16
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edpdx1
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 20:21:53
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Husker, Do you have the ins. file for the Juno DS? Thanks
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 20:32:22
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I don't, but if you have a list of the presets, the actual file is simple enough to create.
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 20:38:27
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They're a bit tedious to make... have done several.
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 20:41:23
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Hi, I have downloaded the MIDI chart implementation file for the Juno-DS, but I cannot figure out the right value number for each specific bank sound when trying to define the file for example (Piano, Keyboard/Organ, Orchestra, Guitar/Bass etc, etc.) It tells me the following: Bank | | Program | Group | NUMBER MSB | LSB | Number | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 000 | | 001 - 128 | GM Patch | 0001 - 0256 : 063 | | 001 - 128 | GM Patch | 0001 - 0256 What value should I give each bank? The chart does not give me a list of sound banks and their MSB or LSB number. Thanks, Ed
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 20:44:10
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Phoen1xPJ They're a bit tedious to make... have done several.
Simple, yes. Tedious, absolutely. I actually finished making definition files for all my hardware last October. Then Cakewalk went under, and I switched to Cubase. Then I spent another month redoing everything in Cubase Patchscript format.
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 20:46:00
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edpdx1 Hi, I have downloaded the MIDI chart implementation file for the Juno-DS, but I cannot figure out the right value number for each specific bank sound when trying to define the file for example (Piano, Keyboard/Organ, Orchestra etc, etc.) It tells me the following: Bank | | Program | Group | NUMBER MSB | LSB | Number | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 000 | | 001 - 128 | GM Patch | 0001 - 0256 : 063 | | 001 - 128 | GM Patch | 0001 - 0256 What value should I give each bank? Thanks, Ed
What I would do is this - copy the one that Bitflipper suggested earlier, just cut out all but a few of the presets, and rename the first few presets to what is on the DS. Install it, and see what happens. It took me just a few minutes of trial and error to figure out what the actual numbers it was expecting.
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 21:05:06
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 21:42:04
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Hi , This is what I needed. I am a bit confused on which Bank Select Method it uses, is it controller 0 or controller 32? Sonar only allows me to enter 1 method. Ed, Thanks
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/14 23:49:03
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/03/18 14:19:24
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Hi, I found out that the bank select method is 32. I can create a bank but it only responds to the first 128 DS patches, regardless of bank name or given value. I want to have access to all patches since Juno does not have an internal sequencer, and using a computer is the only workaround. Thanks.
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/11/26 21:58:48
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If you ever succeeded in creating that INS file for the Roland Juno DS88 could you please paste it here or upload it to a community website where I and others could find it? I've done this myself with several keyboards in the past but it is tedious work and I really don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't have to. You would be doing the community and myself a great service if you could take a few minutes and post it here. Thanks in advance. Gary ;)
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/11/27 05:45:25
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You might find this article about instrument definitions useful.
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Re: Instrument definition file.
2018/11/27 13:46:13
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happyrat1 If you ever succeeded in creating that INS file for the Roland Juno DS88 could you please paste it here or upload it to a community website where I and others could find it? I've done this myself with several keyboards in the past but it is tedious work and I really don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't have to. You would be doing the community and myself a great service if you could take a few minutes and post it here. Thanks in advance. Gary ;)
R!Soc This is what I use. I can't remember if these are the factory presets though.
; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Cakewalk Instrument Definition File ; Roland Juno 106 ; ; ; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
.Patch Names
[Roland Juno 106] 0=A-11 Brass 1=A-12 Brass Swell 2=A-13 Trumpet 3=A-14 Flutes 4=A-15 Moving Strings 5=A-16 Brass & Strings 6=A-17 Choir 7=A-18 Piano I 8=A-21 Organ I 9=A-22 Organ II 10=A-23 Combo Organ 11=A-24 Calliope 12=A-25 Donald Pluck 13=A-26 Celeste* (1 oct. up) 14=A-27 Elect. Piano I 15=A-28 Elect. Piano II 16=A-31 Clock Chimes* (1 oct. up) 17=A-32 Steel Drums 18=A-33 Xylophone 19=A-34 Brass III 20=A-35 Fanfare 21=A-36 Strings III 22=A-37 Pizzacato 23=A-38 High Strings 24=A-41 Bass Clarinet 25=A-42 English Horn 26=A-43 Brass Ensemble 27=A-44 Guitar 28=A-45 Koto 29=A-46 Dark Pluck 30=A-47 Funky I 31=A-48 Synth Bass I (unison) 32=A-51 Lead I 33=A-52 Lead II 34=A-53 Lead III 35=A-54 Funky II 36=A-55 Synth Bass II 37=A-56 Funky III 38=A-57 Thud Wah 39=A-58 Going Up 40=A-61 Piano II 41=A-62 Clav. 42=A-63 Frontier Organ 43=A-64 Snare Drum (unison) 44=A-65 Tom Toms (unison) 45=A-66 Timpani (unison) 46=A-67 Shaker 47=A-68 Synth Pad 48=A-71 Sweep I 49=A-72 Pluck Sweep 50=A-73 Repeater 51=A-74 Sweep II 52=A-75 Pluck Bell 53=A-76 Dark Synth Piano 54=A-77 Sustainer 55=A-78 Wah Release 56=A-81 Gong (play low chords) 57=A-82 Resonance Funk 58=A-83 Drum Booms* (1 oct. down) 59=A-84 Dust Storm 60=A-85 Rocket Men 61=A-86 Hand Claps 62=A-87 F X Sweep 63=A-88 Caverns 64=B-11 Strings 65=B-12 Violin 66=B-13 Chorus Vibes 67=B-14 Organ 1 68=B-15 Harpsichord 1 69=B-16 Recorder 70=B-17 Perc. Pluck 71=B-18 Noise Sweep 72=B-21 Space Chimes 73=B-22 Nylon Guitar 74=B-23 Orchestral Pad 75=B-24 Bright Pluck 76=B-25 Organ Bell 77=B-26 Accordion 78=B-27 FX Rise 1 79=B-28 FX Rise 2 80=B-31 Brass 81=B-32 Helicopter 82=B-33 Lute 83=B-34 Chorus Funk 84=B-35 Tomita 85=B-36 FX Sweep 1 86=B-37 Sharp Reed 87=B-38 Bass Pluck 88=B-41 Resonant Rise 89=B-42 Harpsichord 2 90=B-43 Dark Ensemble 91=B-44 Contact Wah 92=B-45 Noise Sweep 2 93=B-46 Glassy Wah 94=B-47 Phase Ensemble 95=B-48 Chorused Bell 96=B-51 Clav 97=B-52 Organ 2 98=B-53 Bassoon 99=B-54 Auto Release Noise Sweep 100=B-55 Brass Ensemble 101=B-56 Ethereal 102=B-57 Chorus Bell 2 103=B-58 Blizzard 104=B-61 E. Piano w/Tremelo 105=B-62 Clarinet 106=B-63 Thunder 107=B-64 Reedy Organ 108=B-65 Flute / Horn 109=B-66 Toy Rhodes 110=B-67 Surf's Up 111=B-68 OW Bass 112=B-71 Piccolo 113=B-72 Melodic Taps 114=B-73 Meow Brass 115=B-74 Violin (high) 116=B-75 High Bells 117=B-76 Rolling Wah 118=B-77 Ping Bell 119=B-78 Brassy Organ 120=B-81 Low Dark Strings 121=B-82 Piccolo Trumpet 122=B-83 Cello 123=B-84 High Strings 124=B-85 Rocket Men 125=B-86 Forbidden Planet 126=B-87 Froggy 127=B-88 Owgan
.Instrument Definitions
[Roland Juno 106] Patch =Roland Juno 106
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