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Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013 will be the year I replace my current DAW. With Vista support being dropped by so many I will probably make this earlier than originally planned. I have been looking at INTA Audio, a UK based specialist PC builder. Has any one here used them? This is the PC I am considering. http://www.inta-audio.com/pc-builder/index/69 Options I am considering over and above the basic specification 60GB accelerator Cache Drive 3 x 2000 GB SATA drives - Main drive set up for dual boot, same system and partitioned 500/1500 - 500 GB partition boots for music applications, 1500 GB partition boots for General/ Office applications (email, MS Office, Photo editing etc.) - all non Music data stored on this partition. Any advice on graphics card options would be appreciated but I am thinking the default will be fine. Audio Interface will be my existing Roland Quad Capture.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2012/12/31 06:50:28
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That looks similar to my recent build (see my general spec's below):
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2012/12/31 09:13:40
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take a look at Scan UK first
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/02 05:13:15
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jcschild take a look at Scan UK first Thanks, I have looked at them. Their headline prices are quoted ex-VAT so they look cheaper at first but once you configure to a similar spec (you can't make it exactly the same) and add the tax prices are in the same range. I get the impression that INTA audio and Carillon specialised Audio PC builders and SCAN is a more general PC maker that happens to make a DAW configuration. However being a bigger company there may be other advantages. INTA-Audio gets me closest to my ideal configuration
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/02 05:15:08
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Glyn Barnes jcschild take a look at Scan UK first Thanks, I have looked at them. Their headline prices are quoted ex-VAT so they look cheaper at first but once you configure to a similar spec (you can't make it exactly the same) and add the tax prices are in the same range. This seems the closest http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ShowSystem.asp?SystemID=1381 I get the impression that INTA audio and Carillon specialised Audio PC builders and SCAN is a more general PC maker that happens to make a DAW configuration. However being a bigger company there may be other advantages. INTA-Audio gets me closest to my ideal configuration
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/02 05:31:22
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I've got a Carillon (this is my second I've bought through them) I can tell you this - I will NOT be buying from Carillon again in the future. Their build quality has gone downhill in my opinion. My latest machine (specs below) suffered with the following faults: Bad RAM chip Bad PSU Wrong Graphics card They have also stopped mounting their hard drives inside special acoustic sleeves due to "heating problems". I think it's more down to "Cost problems"
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/02 11:17:20
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Glyn, quality, support, compatibility... you get what you pay for.. (well some of my competition you dont) i didnt recommend Scan due to price
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/03 01:55:49
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jcschild Glyn, quality, support, compatibility... you get what you pay for.. (well some of my competition you dont) i didnt recommend Scan due to price I just realised who you are . I will take that as a positive recomendation and put them on my shortlist. It seems Scan are keen on over-clocking. Defuly options are generally overclocked. whats the risk/reward ratio here.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/03 09:39:27
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when done right OCing is awesome with NO negatives. I sell them, Jim Roseberry does it and Scan does it. highly recommend.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/10 07:07:48
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Based on Scott's recomendation I had a good look at Scan and I have added a 3XS SI77 PowerDAW with the configuration below to the shortlist. As long as I can find space I will probably drop the dual boot idea and retain my old DAW for "office" use and use something like a Belkin OmniView USB Soho Series 2-Port DVI KVM Switch so I can share keyboard, mouse and screens between the two computers. I still have a couple of questions. Is the 750GB Seagate ST750LX003 MomentusXT Hybrid Solid State system drive a good option or would I be better with a conventional Western Digital Cavier Black, possibly with a cache SSD drive? Is the 520 watt power supply OK or should I go for the 650W be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 BN201 option? System overview System Overview Custom Coloured Cases: *No Custom Colour Required* Case: Nanoxia Deep Silence One Anthracite Ultimate Low Noise PC Case USB 3.0 CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K Overclocking - CPU: Intel® Core™ Ivy Bridge CPU professionally overclocked by our 3XS engineers to 4.4Ghz CPU Coolers: Prolimatech Armageddon Ultra High End CPU Cooler 6 Heat Pipe Intel Socket LGA 775 1366 1156 1155 Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance 1600Mhz Power Supply Unit: 520W Seasonic M12II-520 87% Efficiency NVIDIA Graphics: 1GB Asus GT 610 Silent PCIe 2.0 (x16) 40nm 1200MHz GDDR3 GPU 810MHz 48 Cores LP Passive System Drives - SSD or Mechanical: 750GB Seagate ST750LX003 MomentusXT Hybrid Solid State 2.5" SATA 6Gb s 7200rpm 32MB Cache Storage Hard drives: 2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200.14 SATA 3 6GB s 7200rpm 64MB Cache , 2 selected Solid State Drives - Data: 240GB Corsair Force 3 Read 550MB s Write 520MB s SF-2281 Solid State Drive - SRT SSD Cache Drive.: *Cache SSD Drive Not Required* Optical Drive 1 - DVD Blu Ray: Samsung SH-224BB - 24X DVD Writer
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/10 08:33:19
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You should be able to add up the power requirements for all the separate units and get a very good idea about the wattage your PSU must be able to handle.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/10 09:21:04
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with the over clock i would go to the 650W also you can always email or call Pete @ Scan to ask his opinion. he will not upsell you unless needed
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/15 05:48:11
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Thanks to all for the help. I just ordered from SCAN and after some correspondence with them settled on the above spec. but with a 1 TB Cavier Black system drive and 60GB SSD cache drive rather than the hybrid. I certainly ended up exceeding my original planned budget but i do not feel there are too may compromises in the above system
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/20 15:34:28
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I would be interested to hear how you get on with Scan, I am lookng at them also.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/26 19:40:00
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/01/27 12:02:20
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spark240 Did you get it yet? No - estimated delivery 4 Feb. A bit slower than I would have hoped but full marks to Scan so far for communication on estimated delivery and status both at the time of order and since.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/04 18:38:38
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/07 12:41:29
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spark240 You get it yet ? No, its all taking longer than anticipated. -1 for that, but +1 for good communication.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/10 13:01:00
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/11 13:02:56
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spark240 Still nothing? No. There is a backlog in the QC department according to the person I talked to. Its starting to get frustrating as my understanding is the system was assembled the OS installed a week ago. There was a 24 hour burn in, which was completed now its waiting on the 88 point QC check. I am going to be away from next weekend so it it does not arrive soon it will be several weeks before I get my hands on it.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/11 18:18:38
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sounds like us... one person builds/burns in/benchmarks (hardware) then moves it over to another area where a different person checks the builders work then installs audio software/hardware and benchmarks audio.. trip thru our company takes at least a week or longer from the time they start building.. several weeks before they start building..
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/12 01:59:25
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Guys.....this is indeed an eye opener ! I thought order today, arrive within a week max...considering people were trying to tell me it's easy to build and takes a few hours. Is there really that much demand for music PC,s ?
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/12 08:29:43
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spark240 Guys.....this is indeed an eye opener ! I thought order today, arrive within a week max...considering people were trying to tell me it's easy to build and takes a few hours. Is there really that much demand for music PC,s ? Well, Scan do not only make music PCs so there will be other machines being built too. If you look at the estimated deliver dates in the automated emails if all goes well a week from the time the building starts is possible, but realistically it looks like 28 days from the date of placing the order is a good rule of thumb. seems I procrastinated too long before placing the order to get delivery and set things up before I go away for work again. 'Still its lightening fast compared to some furniture we have had on order since November! Just to top it off, today the old DAW's PSU decided to die. I am getting a new one fitted as this will become the "office" PC.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/14 15:54:44
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Well, Scan finally delivered. My inital impressions are very good. The build appears to be of the highest quality. There were no issues setting up the Quad capture and A-800 pro with the new Win-8 drivers. X2a and the other Cakewake stuff is installed. Komplete 8 is going on now.
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2013/02/14 17:09:16
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/14 20:40:10
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jcschild Glyn, quality, support, compatibility... you get what you pay for.. (well some of my competition you dont) i didn't recommend Scan due to price scan = THEIR "support" for me has been woeful , to a point where I'm blacklisted .. remember when there was the mess up with the sandy bridge boards? I sent them back a none working machine.. even took video of it!!!.. they said it worked.. wanted to ship back the CPU *BUT* without a MOBO!!! and I would have to wait a month for that due to "quarantine" I stick to companies like ebuyer , which I have used for years (I thought I'd try scan for a change and regretted it) .. and I used to use scan the odd time.. scan dragged their feet and it took AGES to get my money back.. and even then it was only for PART of the order. To the OP... if you can built ya own.. pay Jim to give you advise for parts instead. I've built machines over the years, maybe not as optimised as they could be.. but work for me. Inta have been around a long time.. scan "exs" brand, maybe hasn't been around as long ? . DV even do their own machines or did. scan cost me a fortune in phone calls also, and didn't think it was important to call customers back or even email for DAYS later.. even when they were "out to lunch".. customer service?... I think not from buying to refund.. it almost took a month for them to sort out.. and I had to chase them up repeatedly.. AND left a message on a forum for the owner of the company.. which normally does the trick , but didn't in their case. ebuyer , for parts = no problems for YEARS
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/15 09:22:44
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well i would have to say you are the first person to say that about scan. i know Pete very well. that whole sandy bridge board this (which only dealt with 2 Sata 600 ports anyway) was a pain for ALL involved. from system builders to mobo manufacturers and obviously intel. we dealt with it in 3 ways 1) accept as is (really no big deal) as nothing was any faster on sata 600 over 300 at the time including SSD (40%) 2) wait for the new boards (25%) 3) add a Sata 600 controller to the system for free (35%) this actually gave 4 ports sata 600.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/15 15:19:04
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Well I have run out of time, I have to leave the beast for now and go off and earn some money. I will be away for several weeks. I have installed just about everything major except the Toontrack stuff which will take a little while! The only snag is a problem with IKMuliimedia's authorization manager which I will have to sort out when I get back. The PC is pretty impressive, very solidly built and quiet. The case is BIG, check the dimensions if space is a premium. As to be expected its very fast and loading the big 3rd party Kontakt libraries off a SSD cached 1TB hard disk has removed the load time frustration I was having with the old system.
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Re:Inta-Audio - any opinions on this PC?
2013/02/15 16:19:32
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jcschild well i would have to say you are the first person to say that about scan. i know Pete very well. that whole sandy bridge board this (which only dealt with 2 Sata 600 ports anyway) was a pain for ALL involved. from system builders to mobo manufacturers and obviously intel. we dealt with it in 3 ways 1) accept as is (really no big deal) as nothing was any faster on sata 600 over 300 at the time including SSD (40%) 2) wait for the new boards (25%) 3) add a Sata 600 controller to the system for free (35%) this actually gave 4 ports sata 600. well you are based abroad and maybe deal with them exclusively.. as ebuyer and more don't have a dedicated DAW building section. selling me the parts then keeping them for a month and denying they were defective even though I had video proof of them... I'm the only one YOU have heard who have had issues... (much like you are better qualified to talk about companies over there) ... but maybe you only deal with EXS and not scan as a bigger company. either way, they will never get my money again.. I still have the "wonderful" emails of how p*** poor their service was.
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2013/02/15 16:24:17
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I think Im gonna go Inta Audio.....I really dont want to spend the extra cash on Scan or Rain. Nobody seems to be able to do the Inta spec for less than £1k.
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