Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay?

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2011/03/05 09:47:53 (permalink)

Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay?

Looking to purchase a SSD to replace my boot drive, and was wondering :
  1. If I'll really reap the rewards of going ahead with this move if my samples are all located on a separate, non-SSD drive.
  2. If this would be a good, safe purchase as a boot drive. Or would this be better? (I've seen 120GB SSD drives that cost twice this much... from the same manufacturers even. Why?)
Thanks!


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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 10:19:40 (permalink)
    Does your MB support SATA6?  I looked at both drives and it appears they both are SATA3.

    I found a site that provides details. Below is an example of the difference.

    Up to 355MBps (SATA 6Gb/s)
    Up to 265MBps (SATA 3Gb/s)


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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 10:34:56 (permalink)
    SATA 3 vs 6? I'm in unfamiliar territory here. Is that what would explain the price difference between this and this?

    My motherboard is an Asus P6T (Socket 1366 LGA)

    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67 GHz
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 10:52:26 (permalink)
    I looked up the spec on your MB and it appears it doesn't support SATA6 speeds. But it looks like a very nice board.

    The tranfers speeds

    OCR- Up to 285MB/s (Read); Up to 275MB/s (Write) .1 ms seek time

    Intel - Up to 250 MB/s (Read); Up to 70 MB/s (Write) .5ms seek time

    Unless it's a typo, I'd say the OCR would be the better choice. IMO

    But the picture of the OCR says SATAII on it.

    Is Best Buy the only option you have for a brick and morter in your area? 
     
    This should be under hardware...no harm.
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 11:26:58 (permalink)
    Jumbicat, I was beginning to regret my motherboard purchase there for a minute until you re-assured me. :)

    Those numbers look like typos to me. The discrepancy is far too big, no?
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 11:44:30 (permalink)
    Most likely.

    Just compare all the drives you want and find the one with fastest seek,read/write. I got the C300 64gig and very happy with the preformance. When I was shopping for a MB, I looked for next generation specs.  Only a few offered fiber interfaces but that's still a ways out from being mainstream.

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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 11:49:55 (permalink)
    There is another recent thread that you might want to read:  http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2245164

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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 12:25:16 (permalink)
    I looked them up, and it turns out those specs aren't a typo. I am heavily leaning towards getting the OCZ today at my local Best Buy. Only question left is if 120GB is overkill for a boot drive, given the price. Would I be better served by a 80GB model?
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 12:35:51 (permalink)
    jyeager11


    SATA 3 vs 6? I'm in unfamiliar territory here. Is that what would explain the price difference between this and this?

    My motherboard is an Asus P6T (Socket 1366 LGA)

    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67 GHz

    Wow, I have the same exact system and was wondering the same questions. Thanks for the post!
     
    I'm about to go SSD on both drives. Just saving the cash...

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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 12:36:44 (permalink)
    That's up to you and what the budget allows.  I'm assume the two drives have the same specs just a different sizes. 
    In my case, the SSD has the Win7 64 OS and Sonar X1. I'll import the project being worked then save it to the larger project drive. 

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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 12:45:17 (permalink)
    When you say the SSD has Sonar X1, are you referring solely to the program, or the location of your WAVE folder as well?

    Is there any point going SSD and keeping the WAVE folder (which in my case is huge) on a separate IDE drive?

    I have 10GB ram, if that influences the answer.
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 13:00:15 (permalink)
    Everything is defaulted to the SSD drive.  Once done with the project, it's saved to the larger drive that also stores the huge library folders. I tend to maintain 30 gigs of free space.
     
    Edit - double checked  17-20 gigs free space.
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 13:10:09 (permalink)
    When  I compare the reviews between the Intel X25-M and the similarly-priced OCZ Agility 2 on Newegg's product pages, the Intel seems to generate more universal praise.

    Intel X25-M (120GB)

    Average Seek Time: 0.5 ms
    Maximum Data Transfer Rate
    Read: 250 MB/s
    Write: 70 MB/s

    OCZ Agility 2 (120GB)

    Average Seek Time: 0.1 ms
    Maximum Data Transfer Rate
    Read: 285 MB/s
    Write: 275 MB/s

    Why is that, if those average seek time & write speed figures are accurate? They overwhelmingly favor the Agility 2.

    What does the X25-M have that the Agility 2 doesn't that would earn it so much of the praise I've been Googling? I just don't get it. OCZ should be slaughtering Intel with these numbers, but they're not.
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 13:29:02 (permalink)

    What does the X25-M have that the Agility 2 doesn't.............. 
    I think it is a trust issue.  This technology is fairly new, and I think people just trust Intel. IMO


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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 13:40:55 (permalink)

    OCZ (OCZSSD3-2VTX120G) Vertex 2 SATA II 3.5" 120G Solid State Drive, Read: 285MB/s, Write: 275MB/s 180.00

    use this for a boot drive, you will never go back..good-day
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 13:41:42 (permalink)
    I went intel after the same debate :

    First i went intel because of support , utilities and reliability 
    Second you got 111gb of data space with the intel ...less with the ocz 

    Keep in mind that there a know issue with new motherboard (sandy bridge as well) that doesn't allow to take full advanteage of ssd ....

    On the paper ocz is better , real life use , open and use it with no issue and start making music : go intel ....


    The write speed isn't that important for a boot drive ...versus a data drive ...

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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 13:45:43 (permalink)
    I think they will all be limited until the SATA technology catches up!  But it is the wave of the future.

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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 13:45:53 (permalink)
    Funny you should mention the Vertex 2, StarTekh... I just found it at another local store for a price similar to the Agility 2. And everything I've read about it -- especially the firmware updates -- give it an edge over the Agility 2.

    But the, Zo makes a good case for the Intel.

    Arg. lol
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 14:27:19 (permalink)
    with all due respect the Vertex 2 is the correct drive to
    buy at this time, the intel is too old...
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 14:55:34 (permalink)
    StarTekh

    with all due respect the Vertex 2 is the correct drive to
    buy at this time, the intel is too old...

    StarTekh, what do you have to say about this?

    http://www.ocztechnologyf...m-OCZ-SSD-drives/page1

    Which spawned this :

    http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1586111

    These are huge last-minute red flags for me with regards to OCZ. :(
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 15:02:47 (permalink)
    let me read up brb
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 15:09:13 (permalink)
    ok fair: this is news to me but

    OCZSSD2‐2VTXE60G 55 64
    OCZSSD2‐2VTXE120G 118 128
    OCZSSD2‐2VTX60G 60 64
    OCZSSD2‐2VTX120G 120 128 see you dont buy 1 with a E in it, if your realy worried buy a old
    intel, but it probaly in the long run, will have the same issues
    you can also consider this : http://www.newegg.com/Pro...Item=N82E16820148348..

    OCZSSD2‐2VTX120G 180.00 works fine...

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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 15:26:40 (permalink)
    Your link doesn't point to a specific product (9 pages of products).

    I can't really afford to go much higher than $250 for 120GB. This limits my choices back to the Intel, I think.

    The one I was really leaning towards was the Vertex 2E (E = 120GB) but apparently these are the most likely to be contaminated, if that OCZ thread is any indication.
    post edited by jyeager11 - 2011/03/05 15:32:04
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 15:56:01 (permalink)
    News to me too so I checked my drive and found
    C300-CTFDDAC064MAG

    But my specs were for SATA6 so the ones having issues may be different.

    You're on the right track though.  Research and buy what you think is best for your  current hardware setup.  Anything attached to your motherboard will need to be compliant with the MB specs...

    It looks to me OCR fleshed out the problems and offered customers a option. 

    I'm with Startekh, "you'll never go back".

    I've been running crash free since November last year. (Build date) knocking wood...

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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 16:03:01 (permalink)
    The C300 is a Crucial, and it's Sata 6. My MB can't go over Sata 2, so I'd be spending for performance I can't even use.

    What I'm not fully understanding is what OCZ is accepting to trade the "bad" drives for. What exactly are they proposing to replace them with? And where can I get THAT without having to go through the return policy?

    I was very high on the Vertex 2 until the Hardforum.com guys scared me out of anything OCZ, by way of the thread I quoted up above.

    I was hoping not to buy online, OR purchase old products (which is what the X25-M is, reliable though it may be) but looks like I'm going to have to do both. Because the X25-M isn't even available anywhere in Montreal, physically.
    post edited by jyeager11 - 2011/03/05 16:04:02
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 16:05:23 (permalink)
    jyeager11 your in montreal >?
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 16:07:59 (permalink)
    Yeah, and it's looking like I'm going to have to buy from NCIX. Which means I can kiss my weekend upgrading plans goodbye.

    Now that I have all this extra time (unfortunately), I'm going to keep researching this.
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 16:10:58 (permalink)
    you can look at www.canadacomputers.com

    microbytes is way over priced, were is st anne's..btw
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 16:21:32 (permalink)
    I've had horrible experiences with CanadaComputers. Are you associated with them?
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    Re:Intel 120G Solid State (Boot) Drive - yay or nay? 2011/03/05 16:24:14 (permalink)
    http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?elitepost=0&SLanguage=en-us&board_id=1&model=P6T&page_size=20&page=2&count=981

    If you have time, (I don't) you might search for what SSD are being used by other P6T owners. It might give some insight on what brands are working best or worst.

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