toddsilva
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Intel 5820 vs. 4790
My DAW's motherboard is on its way out, and needs to be replaced. I'm considering two different CPU/motherboard combinations, Intel 5820/X99/LGA2011 vs. Intel 4790/Z97/LGA1150.
This is by no means complete or in detail, but pros for the 5820 are 6 cores vs. 4 (6 @ 3.3 Ghz vs. 4 @ 4 Ghz), and support for quad channel DDR4 vs. dual channel DDR3. Pros for the 4790 are 88W TDP vs. 140W, and 40 PCIe lanes vs. 28. The 5820 is the entry level LGA2011, whereas the 4790 is the top of the line LGA1150 processor.
With current costs (using Newegg.com as a benchmark), the CPU + motherboard + 32GBs of memory for the 5820 is only a $90 premium over the 4790 system. So I'm leaning towards the 5820. The 5820 system also looks to be a better path to future proofing if I want to keep this configuration for at least 3 to 4 years.
What are your thoughts, comments, opinions on the 5820 vs. the 4790 for a Sonar DAW?
Thank you for your help,
Todd
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/12 17:49:22
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It's probably like cars: you have a Ford that makes you happy, you recommend it. My 5820 in an Asus x99 motherboard seems fine, but there are many many good options.
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/12 18:30:27
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2015/07/18 01:07:14
I'd base the decision on the density of your projects... and if you do video editing/rendering.
I'd want higher performance cooling with the 5820 (especially if you plan to over-clock).
If you're working with video... or really pushing the performance limits, the quad-channel RAM of socket 2011-3 is an advantage (as are the two additional cores).
If you're not working with video and your projects really aren't very dense, socket 2011-3 is overkill.
If you don't plan to over-clock the 5820k, I would go with the 4790k.
The 4790k running at 4.4GHz is a very formidable CPU.
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toddsilva
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/12 20:08:44
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Thank you Jim, thank you williamcopper,
Jim, I don't do much with video yet, but having this for future use is interesting. I do however have projects that are VSTi and VST-fx heavy, so an o/c'd 5820 system might make more sense. You mentioned above the "4790k running at 4.4Ghz". That's it's turbo speed, but not necessarily o/c'd. I just checked out your website, and you have the 5820 in your Platinum Studio DAW o/c'd to 4.4Ghz. Do you still use air cooling, or water on this type of system? I'm considering Noctua for the cooler.
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/17 20:42:06
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/18 04:21:09
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For my money, Arctic Cooling is the way to go for air CPU coolers. Very quiet and efficient. I have a Freezer i30 in my X99 computer and it is massive, but very efficient and quiet. They tend to be good with their designs so despite being large, no RAM slots get blocked or anything.
If you want something more, you can get sealed water coolers which have a block you attach to the CPU and then combination fan/pump/radiator unit you mount elsewhere in the case. They work very well and are not hard to deal with (custom water cooling is a real pain).
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/18 09:55:03
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A very interesting article in the July publication of Sound on Sound talks about Speed and Cores, the conclusion of the article seems to me to be that a 4790K CPU running at 4.0Ghz would actually be better than the 5820K CPU running at 3.3Ghz. i.e. Clock speed wins over more cores but slower clock. Jim's input would be interesting to hear as I appreciate his experience. Here is a link to the piece though if you do not subscribe it will not be visible sorry probably still on the shelves for the next few days as the new August edition is due out on Thursday. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul15/articles/cpu-performance-0715.htm
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/20 21:25:32
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Thanks Sycraft and Wookiee. Wookiee, that's a helpful article, I'll check it out. I already have the X99 motherboard and the 5820K, and plan to overclock using a Noctua cooler.
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/21 00:18:26
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You can run the 4790k at 4.4GHz.
If you don't plan to over-clock the 5820k (stock TurboBoost speed is 3.6GHz), the 4790k will outperform it.
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/21 00:19:05
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If you plan to over-clock the 5820k, I'd recommend high-performance cooling.
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/21 09:44:38
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Thank you Jim! I do plan to OC the 5820K, and am considering the NH-D14.
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/21 10:32:37
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toddsilva
Thank you Jim! I do plan to OC the 5820K, and am considering the NH-D14.
The NH-D14 is a good air-cooler (it's large so make sure you have room).
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/21 10:59:32
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Jim Roseberry
toddsilva
Thank you Jim! I do plan to OC the 5820K, and am considering the NH-D14.
The NH-D14 is a good air-cooler (it's large so make sure you have room).
I'm very happy with mine (now 2 years old) and running very well. Yes it's HUGE.......I got a full tower ATX case to house NH-D14 (wanted to make sure it fits in). Todd, if you do get the NH-D14 and need a free mounting kit for it, I have an extra one and don't mind shipping it to you (if you're in the States).
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/21 20:52:58
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Thanks Jim, and thanks Mesh! It'll be a few more days before I decide. Won't be able to make this (system) change-over for another few weeks. I don't think I mentioned this above... My decision boils down to NH-D14 vs. Prolimatech Megahalems Rev. B. I have the Megahalems in my current DAW (i7 870/LGA1156). Has a 120mm Sharkoon fan. I'm in dialog with Prolimatech about LGA2011-3 adapter kits and also checking to see if it can support 140mm fan. I'm not having much luck finding performance comparisons between the two. The reason for considering the Megahalems?... I wouldn't have to pay for a new cooler! 
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/21 23:52:57
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The website frostytech has performance comparisons for both models, including noise specs. From what i could see, both are very good choices.
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/22 08:29:37
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/22 11:09:44
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Thank you Mesh and atiinola! I've been spending time this am on the Frostytech site, very helpful info!! I remember going through this 4 years ago, spent more time on the cooler selection process than all of the other system components combined... 
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/22 11:55:24
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toddsilva
Thank you Mesh and atiinola! I've been spending time this am on the Frostytech site, very helpful info!!
I remember going through this 4 years ago, spent more time on the cooler selection process than all of the other system components combined...
You're most welcome Todd. I too went through a bit of dilemma choosing the 'right' cooler as my AsRock MB comes with built in tubes for water cooling (had to research both in order to make a good choice). Although there were very good/safe justifications in using water cooling, I somehow just didn't like the idea of water & electronics being in the same equation. The NH-D14 was getting excellent reviews at the time (2 years ago), and apart from the size of this beast, there weren't any complaints. Good luck with the research.
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Re: Intel 5820 vs. 4790
2015/07/22 22:31:43
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Thanks Mesh. I have finally finished all of my homework/research. Whew! I'm re-using the Megahalems Rev. B, and upgrading the fan to a Phantek PH-F140HP.
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