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Invention in Three Parts
I just starting working with Pianoteq 5, an incredible VST plugin for Sonar using physical modeling rather than sampling. I find this instrument to be one of the finest sounding piano simulations available. Here's a short piece I just finished using Sonar and Pianoteq 5: www.jerrygerber.com/inventioninthreeparts.htm Jerry http://www.jerrygerber.com
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 16:19:46
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Loved it Jerry! Jimmy Giuffre used to have me write 2-part inventions for my composition lessons. For those who want to know the difference between (strictly speaking) a fugue and an invention. The fugue follows very strict rules, ala dodecophony, whereas the invention is simply imitative.
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 16:19:47
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Bravo, Jerry. What are yo uusing for notation? Importing MIDI to notate?
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 16:23:58
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Very nice Jerry.....yeah that Piano VST does sound beautiful.
Well done!!
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jsg
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 16:25:41
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Loved it Jerry! Jimmy Giuffre used to have me write 2-part inventions for my composition lessons. For those who want to know the difference between (strictly speaking) a fugue and an invention. The fugue follows very strict rules, ala dodecophony, whereas the invention is simply imitative.
Also, a fugue always begins with one voice, be it a 3, 4 or 5 part fugue. An invention can begin with 2 voices if imitative, or even three voices if more harmonic and/or choral in texture. The rules for fugal writing are not so strict once you grasp the essential principle of good contrapuntal music, that the harmony and voice-leading must work on both the horizontal and vertical planes yet be independent in direction, rhythm and contour. This is why one can write a fugue outside of the major-minor system, because the procedure of fugal writing, particularly the exposition, can be adapted in a variety of styles. In contrast, dodecaphonic procedures involve such harmonic restrictions that it becomes almost impossible to write good harmony without ignoring one aspect or another of 12-tone technique and the 12-tone matrix. At least the principles behind tonal and modal music are based somewhat on the natural order of harmonics. Dodecaphonic principles are pure abstractions, which is probably why only a minority of composers will continue to write within that model. Jerry www.jerrygerber.com
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jsg
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 16:28:10
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Bravo, Jerry. What are yo uusing for notation? Importing MIDI to notate?
I export from Sonar to Sibelius 7.5 to make the score, and then export to PDF for the web... Lots of clean up to do when exporting from Sonar to Sibelius because sometimes Sibelius doesn't always know the voice-leading that strict contrapuntal music requires.
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 16:33:03
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I enjoyed that very much. I have written a couple inventions, but they are firmly grounded in the Baroque. This was quite refreshing to listen to.
What "flavor" of Pianoteq 5 are you using? I see quite a few options out there.
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 16:35:02
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I enjoyed that very much. I have written a couple inventions, but they are firmly grounded in the Baroque. This was quite refreshing to listen to.
What "flavor" of Pianoteq 5 are you using? I see quite a few options out there.
I'm using the version priced in the middle, the most expensive version has far more tweaking ability than I would ever use, the one I have also allows a tremendous amount of tweaking, but I just made some EQ adjustments from a preset and it did the trick...
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 16:38:49
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thanks for the comeback - I enjoy your music and I've spent some time on your website. It's all good.
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/02 17:53:38
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Very nice Jerry.....yeah that Piano VST does sound beautiful.
Well done!!
Thanks. I just posted version 2. The first version began sounding to me like there was bit too much energy around 500khz. I thought it interfered with the beautiful piano tone. So this new version I just posted is with -2dB at 500khz, Q approx. 250-800hz. I think it now sounds more pleasing to the ear as the moderate lowering of lower-mid-range energy brings out the independence of the voices more clearly. www.jerrygerber.com/inventioninthreeparts.htm Jerry
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/03 14:49:40
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I don't really know much about fugues or inventions (other than the non-musical kind) and even less about dodecophony, but I did like this!  The midrange is often the toughest part for a sampled piano to get "right" but this sure sounds pretty nice.
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Re: Invention in Three Parts
2016/03/18 14:17:06
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thanks for the comeback - I enjoy your music and I've spent some time on your website. It's all good.
I didn't know I ever left the scene! ;>) Jerry www.jerrygerber.com
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