quantumeffect
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Is Pumping Iron Ironic
I was listening to satellite radio the other day and heard a Robert Plant song that I had not heard in a long time called “Heaven Knows”. There is a line in the song that goes something like:
“You were pumping iron, whereas I was pumping irony”
Being an American, I recognize that I truly don’t comprehend irony (sarcasm yes, irony no) so, I leave the whole irony thing up to my Brit friends.
Can somebody explain what this well respected British songwriter is getting at with this statement? Is it a metaphor of some sort (I grasping at straws here) or can you really pump irony? Is the lyric itself ironic? Please help me to understand.
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jamesg1213
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 14:39:53
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No idea really Dave. Plant didn't write the song, so maybe he didn't know either.  Great album though ('Now and Zen'), played it a lot back then. Love 'Ship of Fools' ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQqlnQDD6_U
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 14:44:34
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 14:47:17
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I've pumped many a nylon but no iron. There are a lot of lyrics that loose me. Speaking of pumping nylon, if your into classic guitar and want to improve your technique, It's a great book!
post edited by bayoubill - 2013/11/10 15:51:06
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 14:51:46
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Maybe pumping is plugging like THIS ???
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 14:51:49
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Maybe pumping is plugging like THIS ???
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 15:52:52
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/11/10 17:38:16
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 15:55:11
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/11/10 17:38:19
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 16:52:58
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craigb
So, is it ironic when Tony Stark (i.e., Robert Downey Jr.) wears a Black Sabbath Tee shirt or is it just obvious.
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 16:55:42
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No idea really Dave. Plant didn't write the song, so maybe he didn't know either. Great album though ('Now and Zen'), played it a lot back then.
Love 'Ship of Fools' ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQqlnQDD6_U
At first I thought that you may have solved my dilemma ... thinking maybe it was written by an American ... but, it was actually written by two British song writers (does that make it doubly ironic).
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/10 17:05:10
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bayoubill
Whoa! Digi Vue
Is it ironic that bayoubill achieved the rank of sergeant in the air force (if I am interpreting the avatar correctly) but has achieved the rank of general (going by those 5 stars) in the CH?
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/11 09:31:04
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Senior Master Sergeant, one step from the highest enlisted rank achievable.
Is it ironic that irony is pronounced like it's spelled and iron isn't?
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 13:00:51
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 13:15:13
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Even though it wasn't written by Robert Plant, it sounds like it was written for RB. It's been a while since I've heard the tune so I may well be wrong about this, but my impression was the girlfriend was spending all her time working out and concentrating on physical appearance while RB seemed to be interested in something deeper and didn't have to work at staying in shape because he got his exercise performing on stage. Anyway, that's where I think the iron/irony line may come from.
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 13:32:07
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I mostly pump gas.
It's not really the same thing.
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 14:19:39
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Petrol or methane? Never mind, ether, or--I don't want to know.
post edited by Old55 - 2013/11/21 14:21:16
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 15:06:20
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/11/21 15:46:43
I decided to retire at 20 years and not stay in for 30. I was in line to be Band Manager for the Europe Band but that would have created many problems. My goal was to make Senior Master at 20 and I did. I was Senior NCO of the year twice! Onest I retired my goal was simple. To Live In A Van Down By the River ! I have achieved this goal also but due to a hurricane it's now a tent with a singing nurse in it. I have failed however in becoming a guitarist of favor and honorable mention in the eyes of MM100 who has backed out of beer and pizza several times. I now will focus on the art of making fudge!
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 18:11:06
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quantumeffect
craigb
So, is it ironic when Tony Stark (i.e., Robert Downey Jr.) wears a Black Sabbath Tee shirt or is it just obvious.
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 19:18:57
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Dave, I don't have the answer but I can say this....during that time, "pumping iron" in NJ meant having sex. Would that change anything as to the lyrics? I believe it might IF that's how they meant it as well. :) Honest that's the truth. We all used that constantly around here and we assumed others did as well. It was common around here until probably 2000,
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quantumeffect
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 19:58:17
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That must have been some sort of south Jersey lingo ... that wasn't a north Jersey expression that I can remember (a New Jersey-ite for 47 years). ... for those of you not in the know, NJ is divided into 3 culturally diverse regions (north, central and south) 
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 21:06:44
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I grew up in central NJ. I don't remember that definition either.
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/21 21:18:23
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I grew up in the FSF. Slag there is nondescript.
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Re: Is Pumping Iron Ironic
2013/11/22 03:59:55
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bapu
I grew up in the FSF. Slag there is nondescript.
It's not iron being pumped in the FSF Bapu. It's more like this: 
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