Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08?

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Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08?

I picked this up (used) as a backup recording interface.  Everything checks out except I can't figure out how to direct monitor (if its possible).  Only thing I found to do is enable echo on each track in Sonar.
 
 
 

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/16 15:31:39 (permalink)
    Yes, it is.  Quite easily.  You need to use the Settings Panel.  A few minutes with the MIXER and OUTPUT SETTING tabs should get you going.

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/16 16:16:07 (permalink)
    I see I can change Line out 1 and 2 to Master L and R, instead of computer.  That allows direct monitoring but the levels are goofy if trying to track with existing tracks.  The output from Sonar has to be dropped way down to be able to hear the input at the same time.  e.g. I plugged an SR16 drum machine into channel 1 (through a D.I. Box) and set the level to -4.  I had to drop the Sonar output level way down so I could hear the "direct" drum channel. 
     
    Either I'm doing it wrong or it just works different than other interfaces (including my main unit an MOTU 896mk3 Hybrid and the Roland Octa-Capture I used have as backup unit).

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/16 16:18:55 (permalink)
    Try this.
     
    From the Output Setting tab, change Line Out 1 from Computer 1 to Master 1 and Line Out 2 from Computer 2 to Master 2. Note however, that this is still in PARALLEL (summed) with your computer audio output. You'll need to make sure nothing is being sent to the mains from your computer.
     


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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/16 16:22:13 (permalink)
    That is the way I set it. 

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/16 16:58:41 (permalink)
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    I see I can change Line out 1 and 2 to Master L and R, instead of computer.  That allows direct monitoring but the levels are goofy if trying to track with existing tracks.  The output from Sonar has to be dropped way down to be able to hear the input at the same time.  e.g. I plugged an SR16 drum machine into channel 1 (through a D.I. Box) and set the level to -4.  I had to drop the Sonar output level way down so I could hear the "direct" drum channel. 
     
    Either I'm doing it wrong or it just works different than other interfaces (including my main unit an MOTU 896mk3 Hybrid and the Roland Octa-Capture I used have as backup unit).




    I assume you made the appropriate level adjustments via the MIXER tab?
    And don't forget that Line 1/2 have a knob on the front panel.
     
    There are gain adjustments for inputs 1 - 10.
     
    Why are you using a mic IN via DI?  Just curious.
     
    INs 11 - 16 (rear) are line inputs switchable -10/+4
     
    IN 9 and 10 (front) are INST/LINE switchable with gain adjustments.

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/16 18:52:58 (permalink)
    I am set up for  recording session tomorrow using the drum machine.  I have an XLR patch panel that is wired to my MOTU unit.  The output on the SR16 is 1/4" and I have a D.I. box to convert it to XLR.  I just moved the XLR cable to one channel on the Tascam unit.

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/17 09:18:08 (permalink)
    I wish I could help more.  Does the Tascam DSP mixer view show decent levels from the SR16?
     
    How are the outputs being combined for monitoring?

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/17 11:41:20 (permalink)
    I got it going last evening at least close enough that I could use it if needed.  Direct monitoring for recording is not an issue, now that I have the Line Out 1 and 2 set to Master L and R.  I worked with the levels in Sonar for tracking and have it that I can work with it, if I need to track with a recorded project.  This will be used as my backup recording interface so after getting it configured, it may just sit in my rack and never get used.
     
    Thanks/Jack
     

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/18 19:29:20 (permalink)
    The 16x08 is pretty close to my older version the us1641, But I see what they removed from the front panel is the direct monitoring controls? Pity. So easy when there is a balance control like the older models. Now it's a Software mixer , just like my 6i6. Even after 40 years of running just about every brand of mixer on the planet, I've yet to figure out how the dang thing (Mix Control) works,,, I simply don't even touch it and use a hardware mixer for monitoring. 
    I can see it would be beneficial if there where more than 4 musicians in the room but looks like a nightmare of button pushing and sub menues and then assigning outputs in Sonar sub mix busses. .
     
    Looks like the Tascam mixer was designed by the same genius ;)
     
    But you'll find they are solid build and mine is still doing a great job of live recordings. I even trust it enough to use as my output interface for my live gigs now. Tascam seems to be getting a solid handle on drivers and I'm looking at that UH 7000 as my next purchase. Hopefully it doesn't need a GUI mixer.
     

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/18 20:02:43 (permalink)
    Having picked Tascam over Focusrite, I've had no previous experience with Mix Control. I just spent a few minutes going through their tutorial for Mix Control, the Whiskey Tango Foxtrot edition, and am at a loss for words.
     


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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/19 06:33:54 (permalink)
    I used to have a Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.  The Focusrite mix control was a beast back then.  They "complicated the ham sandwich".

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/19 10:05:06 (permalink)
    Ran into this the other day with a TASCAM US 20x20.  I almost shot myself trying to get a single mix out of the headphones for the players.  Switching between pages to set levels and then outputs is a b ... bear.  Esp. when several players looking at you, waiting.  Their look was more pitiful than my dog before breakfast.  Glad you got that sussed out early, firebird.
     
    I don't use the 20x20 enough to remember what I did the last time I used it for a bigger session.  But I think I'm finally starting to understand the relationships between the different pages and how they work as a single unit.  But why companies don't follow the standard "mixer" layout is beyond me.  I'll take familiarity over a small boost in flexibility any day, esp. under deadlines. 
     
    However, I managed to get a direct mix going to the proper outs.  The soft mixer works from the hardware inputs, while the output settings let you choose between the mixer and direct computer outs, as far as I can tell.

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/19 10:16:52 (permalink)
    My MOTU 896mk3 Hybrid's software control program "CueMix FX" isn't the best either.  I had problems when I first got the unit, and gave up and sent it back.  I exchanged it for a Presonus Studio 192 (same price) but the Presonus died the 2nd day I had it (power switch would not power unit off).  In the meantime, I ran into a person at the local Guitar Center that used MOTU and he offered to give me some instruction on it.  I went to his studio and spent a couple of hours going over CueMix FX.  I returned the defective Presonus Studio 192 and got another MOTU 896Mk3 Hybrid, since I now had enough information "to be dangerous".  I'm now happy with the MOTU as my primary unit.  The Tascam is a backup and as I mentioned may never be used and just collect dust, but I do know how to direct monitor.....

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    Re: Is direct monitoring possible with Tascam US-16X08? 2016/08/19 14:39:57 (permalink)
    We once contracted to do a local festival, Collectively all us local bands had the makings of a monster PA system,, but we had didily squat for monitors, so we had the organizers rent a "real" monitor system.
    Hmm, we all said as we opened the 3'x5.5' road case for the mixer... what the heck is that? 
    Oh that's a monitor mixer! Or better known as a Matrix mixer. WTF, look at all those knobs!!
    Anyhow it was very logical once you starred at it long enough and saw the beauty of the system. We even managed to patch in the rack full of outboard gear they sent along and make it all work. 
    And got lots compliments on how great the monitors mix was coming through.
    Not bad for a bunch of weekend warriors who had never seen anything bigger than a 24 Channel 4 buss.
     
    So that said,, why can't these interface people stick to the standard formats used world wide.
    I can understand people who have never worked with big consoles being confused, but making it so even those of us who have run almost every type mixer on the planet cannot figure it out?  Not only that, the software seems a little buggy too.
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