Eric Mestre
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Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Professional?
I would love to upgrade to SONAR Platinum but the cost is just too expensive at the present time.
How big of a benefit is it to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the new Sonar Professional?
Can you install both versions on the same computer?
Will the new Sonar Professional version overwrite the X3 version?
Would I still have the ability to use all the plugins that are now available in Sonar X3 with the newer version?
These are some questions I'm unclear on regarding the upgrade.
I really need to know how this new install would affect my current setup before I make the move to upgrade.
Regards,
Eric
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mudgel
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/16 04:17:35
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Any and all versions of Sonar can co exist. You'll just have 2. Versions of Sonar and can pick which one you run. No change to your current setup. Still access all plugins as now. All versions after X3 that is the current versions of Sonar use the Cakewalk Command Centre through which all new Cakewalk programs are installed. X3 won't show up in that. Here's a link to a comparison chart between current Sonar versions https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/VersionsBy the way, welcome to the forum. If you upgrade I'm sure you'll enjoy the many improvements since Sonar X3 was released.
post edited by mudgel - 2017/08/18 16:50:17
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/16 10:17:30
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In a nutshell, Platinum is simply light years ahead of X3 and worth every penny.
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/17 14:04:14
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and it's half price for X3 owners right now
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/17 14:45:36
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Once you've used the latest version you'll never ever use the old one. I still have X3 on my DAW and there's no way I could use it. Even my new version of Home Studio is better in many way's than X3
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/17 14:57:08
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Lots of good under the hood improvements going X3 to SPLAT
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/17 14:59:23
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#1 Can you install both versions on the same computer?
Yes
#2 Will the new Sonar Professional version overwrite the X3 version?
No
#3 Would I still have the ability to use all the plugins that are now available in Sonar X3 with the newer version?
You should be able to use quite a few, I am not sure about all, seeing that some have been updated in Patinum, such as TH3 if I'm not mistaken.
As far as Platinum over X3 , as someone said it's light years ahead, so the learning curve might be a little work for you , but worth it.
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/17 15:14:02
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mudgel
Any and all versions of Sonar can co exist.
This is not accurate. 8.53 does not co-exist with Sonar Platinum beyond Dec 2016 version. Also, the OP's question was referring to Professional. Not Platinum.
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KingsMix
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/17 15:26:09
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timidi
mudgel
Any and all versions of Sonar can co exist.
This is not accurate. 8.53 does not co-exist with Sonar Platinum beyond Dec 2016 version.
Also, the OP's question was referring to Professional. Not Platinum.
The OP probably needs to clarify this point a bit more seeing that he did say: "I would love to upgrade to SONAR Platinum but the cost is just too expensive at the present time."
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Afrodrum
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/17 18:07:46
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Expensive is subjective. I would give up drinks and any entartainment for c. 2-3 months to save to upgrade to Platinum. Would eat less too.
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Eric Mestre
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/17 21:18:39
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Thank you for all the input!
I'm better prepared to move ahead with your advice.
I'm an old Cakewalk user from the 90's.
Still use Pro Audio 9 for midi & Playing live gigs.
Rock solid all those years.
I appreciate all the information.
Eric
Nova Scotia
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Kev999
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 01:35:59
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mudgel
Any and all versions of Sonar can co exist.
This is not accurate. 8.53 does not co-exist with Sonar Platinum beyond Dec 2016 version.
Please explain.
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timidi
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 12:20:01
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Kev999
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mudgel
Any and all versions of Sonar can co exist.
This is not accurate. 8.53 does not co-exist with Sonar Platinum beyond Dec 2016 version.
Please explain.
Kev, Splat screws up the plugin manager in 8.53. The Dec 2016 version seems to be OK.
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mudgel
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 16:57:12
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I didn't know about 8.53 and Sonar 2017. I'll have to check that out. Interesting.
And yes I should have said Professional not Platinum. Purely an oversight. Nonetheless the principles behind what I said are still accurate.
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 17:09:53
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I had the chance to try SPLAT and used it heavily for a month or so, now back to X3 :(
It IS light years ahead.
It IS more responsive.
It IS more stable.
You'll not be sorry,
I'll not be either, Once I can find the funds to upgrade.
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 17:32:09
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mudgel
Any and all versions of Sonar can co exist.
This is not accurate. 8.53 does not co-exist with Sonar Platinum beyond Dec 2016 version.
Please explain.
Kev, Splat screws up the plugin manager in 8.53. The Dec 2016 version seems to be OK.
I didn't know that, so I just opened up 8.53 to see what happens and yes indeed projects that I know full well were written in 8.53 and only edited in 8.53 not will not open - error message saying that the project file is not compatible with this version. I know that this is not because I have subsequently altered things in a later version, because before I did anything with the newer version (X3) I first did a save as "filenameX3" and then worked on that version so that the original 8.5 project was preserved as is to protect it from exactly this kind of scenario. However opening the project in safe mode and clicking on "yes to all" when the plug-ins prompt window comes up allows the project to open and it plays normally, so not sure what that's all about, but at least they can still be opened in 8.53, not that I'm likely to want to do that in all honesty, but I didn't know it was even an issue until I read this thread. The other thing I noticed was how quickly the 8.53 program opens compared to it's modern day counterpart. 
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paulo
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 17:39:17
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Freex
I had the chance to try SPLAT and used it heavily for a month or so, now back to X3 :(
It IS light years ahead.
It IS more responsive.
It IS more stable.
You'll not be sorry,
I'll not be either, Once I can find the funds to upgrade.
You can get by with just the one kidney you know!  Not sure I agree with the stability bit though. X3pro hardly ever crashed on me and if it did it was probably because of me doing something too ambitious whilst in playback mode with many plug-ins on the go. Plat has behaved better of late, still prone to the odd one or two during a 2 hour session, but was an absolute crashfest when I first installed it (2016.12).
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 18:42:53
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Has to be said - I've forgotten what a crash looks like running Platinum
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 19:04:45
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Bristol_Jonesey
Has to be said - I've forgotten what a crash looks like running Platinum
Age can be very cruel. 
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 19:06:07
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The thing is you can save a little bit of money going with Artist or Professional,, or even Home Studio, but one has to look at the feature list and decide what they can live without.
Example I had no issues when I used X3 Studio and then I upgraded to Professional coming from using 8.5 producer
( skipping x1 and x2.)
Because you get all the stuff you had in the older versions held over, all is good even when using the lesser versions. Like say I install Home Studio on my main DAW which already has 8.5, X3studio, Professional and the latest Splat. I would not be missing any VST's or Plugs,, I think I'd even have Melodyne and AD2. All that would be missing is some of the tools and a few miscellaneous features one may not even notice if they don't used them.
It just once you've had those features and tools you will miss them instantly if they are gone.
All I'll say is I'm thank the Cakewalk for the deals they have offered me over the last few years which put me sitting pretty with lifetime version of the flagship version.
With some of the money I saved from these deals I bought Home Studio just to support the company and for fun. It is a great version and was well worth the $50.
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/18 21:43:34
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paulo
Bristol_Jonesey
Has to be said - I've forgotten what a crash looks like running Platinum
Age can be very cruel.
True dat!
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Kev999
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/19 05:54:57
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Any and all versions of Sonar can co exist.
This is not accurate. 8.53 does not co-exist with Sonar Platinum beyond Dec 2016 version.
Please explain.
Kev, Splat screws up the plugin manager in 8.53. The Dec 2016 version seems to be OK.
Can I presume that you mean 8.53 and earlier, rather than just this one specific version?
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soens
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/19 08:23:55
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SPlat actually loves being the dominant DAW lord. It messes with every other version installed, one way or another. Plugin manager shows double entries in X1-3 and a host of other little things pop up whenever I open them.
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pwalpwal
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/19 13:51:17
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maybe it's time cake moved away from using the "Cakewalk\Shared..." application stuff now, if updates are breaking older versions
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soens
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Re: Is it a benefit to upgrade from Sonar X3 Producer to the current version of Profession
2017/08/19 19:00:27
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Maybe it's engineered "planned obsolescence"? I don't use older Sonars much. But when I do... I expects 'em ta work. 
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