Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150?

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2012/10/07 12:33:49 (permalink)

Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150?

I can't even really afford that but I know I need something better than the overhead condensers that came with my Samson drum mic kit. Any suggestions? Cheers.
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    chulaivet1966
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 12:38:53 (permalink)
    Hmm....here a MF link with some choices.
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/recording-microphones?_requestid=2021559

    You might check those out regarding your price range and ask for some personal experiences/reviews on this forum.
    I've had an Equitek E100 since it came out and I'm very happy with it but it was 399$ back then.
    Condenser mics have become much more affordable since those days.
    Hope that helps a bit....at least you got a bump.....carry on.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 12:45:56 (permalink)
    @Quazelar... Thanks. My problem is I know quite a bit about dynamic mics and brands but I've never really gotten a chance to explore condensers and ribbon mics so I'm at a loss. I guess I should mention I'm a male with a deepish voice but I do cross into higher register stuff and would be using it for everything from soft mellow acoustic to screecher/growler metal. So basically I need a general purpose mic suited to the male voice. Perhaps if I had some suggestions on even mics outside of that price range I could research and compare budget mics that emulate their more costly counterparts. Big order I know but I don't really know where to start looking and I can't afford to make a mistake with this purchase. Cheers.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 12:51:32 (permalink)
     I was on that quest a while back ago beepster. I picked up an AKG condenser. for about $200. I found that I still much preferred my standard sure58 dynamic mics for recording. I don't think condensers are as mission critical as some folks tend to lead on. especially for vocals JMO

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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:02:23 (permalink)
    I know...you don't want to buy the wrong condenser mic.
    I got rid of my Equitek E200 because it was dark sounding on my voice (overstatement).

    I still think soliciting comments/ recommendations from this forum is a good approach.
    Getting a reasonably good condenser at your price point may may be a quite subjective assesment given our different vocal timbres, etc.
    Next best ideal is to head to a local music store that will allow you to actually try a few on the house demo setup which is what I've done prior to purchasing.

    I'm sure some others will chime in with some thoughts.

    Good luck on the quest...

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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:08:43 (permalink)
    @ohgrant... My old branded dynamic mics are pretty beat up from live usage so they don't really sound as good as they should for vox. I'd like to get one of those hybrid Shures that cross the Beta Greens and 58's (Beta 58 i think they're called... it's been a long time) but those are pretty pricey and I'm not sure they'll get me where I want. That MF link seems to have some good stuff but it's so hard to tell with mics until you actually use them. There seems to be a fine line between airy/full sounding and tinny/muddy with condensers. I'd like to use whatever I get on my acoustic guitar as well. IDK... such a big subject it's a little overwhelming. I just wish I had like $500 or more to throw at this and I could go for more tried and true models. Oh well. Sucks to be broke.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:11:51 (permalink)
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:13:42 (permalink)
    @Quazelar... Yup, definitely trust these guys. I kind of have another somewhat pathetic problem while buying gear. I don't move around so well anymore so getting out to stores is a major hassle and being stuck out in the country means there are only one or two very tiny music shops around here that aren't really recording oriented. I'm just a big ole pile of useless when it comes to certain things so I rely on the internet and endless research to get my gear together. I've had very good luck with my purchases so far but it really is a nerve racking until the gear is in my hands.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:25:03 (permalink)
    Anyone know of any budget mic shootout type articles on sites like SOS? Maybe I should ask Mr. Anderton next time I see him poking about.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:27:04 (permalink)
    Okay....a MUCH less than direct way might be to listen to a few songs by forum members noting if there voice timbre/tone is similar to yours and inquire what condenser they are using.

    Of course, having a above average audio interface may come into play as part of the equation also.

    Just occurred to me, after you get some recommendations here there may be an accceptable return policy from MF so you could make an exchange if need be.

    I've used dyamics to record vocals eons ago but (to me) it's not acceptable for the long term recording.
    For acoustic....the condenser is necessary.
    Never was clear on the application for ribbon mics which may be cost prohibitive anyway.

    More non help from me.

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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:32:53 (permalink)
    Nah, it's all helpful. Gets my gears turning. Pleased to meet ya. :-)
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:38:52 (permalink)
    Beepster Pleased to meet ya. :-)
    Likewise....
    I just know there's a mic out there in your price range with your name written on it so keep us informed weed hopper.


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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:49:41 (permalink)
    If you truly need the qualities that a condenser microphone offers (sensitivity, omni options, wide frequency response), then you need to invest in a good one. There are a number adequate condensers around for $100 (AT-2020 comes to mind), but they are just that - adequate - and you'd be better off with a good dynamic mic.


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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:53:40 (permalink)
    I know it can't be this simple but this MXL 3000 seems to be getting quite a bit of praise... http://www.musiciansfrien...3000-mic-bundle#review Anyone own or tried this mic?
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:59:04 (permalink)
    I hear ya, bit but I just want something better than my Samson C01's. All my dynamic mics just don't have that clarity I'm looking for. I also have a one of those Blue Ball powered dynamic mics which is cool but it's kind of distant sounding for vocals. The C01's are ALMOST where I want them but they have this weird almost phasing quality to them. Like I'm singing into a little tiny high speed fan or something. It actually sounds kind of cool but obviously is unwanted for a traditional vocal track. I'll check out that 2020 too. Cheers.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 13:59:55 (permalink)
    Beep, I used to have an MXL9000, and for my voice, it was kinda brittle. I bought my husband an AT2050 to mic his acoustic guitar, and stole it for myself.  It isn't the best thing out there, but for the price, it's been pretty damn good.  I imagine the 2020 would give you a nice sound as well.  Good call, Bit.

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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 14:05:55 (permalink)
    Thanks, Jules. I've heard some of your CHC work so that's actually very helpful. That's the kind of clarity I'd like. You've got a great voice BTW.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 14:08:21 (permalink)
    Whoa... that 2020 is only $70. I could probably afford that right now and save up for the 2050. Sweet. I love this place. :-)
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 14:34:03 (permalink)

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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 14:36:08 (permalink)

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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 14:47:19 (permalink)
    That's a crazy site, dude. Thanks. On a side note I realized I have an AKG C 525 S I bought used AGES ago I had forgotten about. I thought it was broken but I just figured out it requires phantom power. I can't remember if I tried that way back when but I'm about to test it. Maybe I'll luck out. I'm also gonna go through all my old dynamic mics and see how they sound with the mic pres on my Scarlett. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. Cheers guys.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 14:54:40 (permalink)
    That just may work for you.
    There's a 200hz bump and a 5k-6k which may even things out on your vocal and acoustic axe.
    I'd have to reduce that low freq. bump by a db or so for my vocals.

    [link=http://www.sonostudi.com/pdf/tecnics/PDFAUDIO/condensador/akgC525S.pdf?PHPSESSID=151deb70e09f7da4b2069e5aec235a74]http://www.sonostudi.com/...9f7da4b2069e5aec235a74
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    Keep us informed of your success....carry on...
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 14:56:53 (permalink)
    AHAHAHAHA! The AKG works! It's like getting a free surprise microphone! It's pretty echo-y though so I'm not sure what I'd use it for but I'll use it for something. It makes my voice sound kind of creepy. Hooray!
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 15:24:00 (permalink)
    "Echo-y"....hmm.....I'd be curious to know the reason for that perception.
    Are you sure it's not your room/mic placement?
    I thought sure that mic might be at least 'adequate' as Bit states.

    Carry on....

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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 15:34:06 (permalink)
    Oh it's a totally different mic than the Audio Technica. I don't think it's really meant for vocals. I just tried to record a track with it and it was pretty crappy. Might be better for micing amps or drums. It doesn't seem to like low Old Man River style vocals. I just tried out my Shure C606 dynamic and man it sounds really good with the Scarlett mic pres. The Shure C series is a budget line (I paid $30 brand new for it) but it's almost as good as a 58. In fact I'd say in some ways it's better especially in the clarity department. I think they may have stopped making them because they were TOO good. I had to do my old trick of putting a sock over it to cut out sibilance and I think it might just be the one that gets used for this specific track. Man I love this little mic. Still gonna test all my others. Aside from the Samson and Blue mics I haven't tried any of my other mics with the Scarlett.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 15:40:57 (permalink)
    the AKG PERCEPTION 220 is absolutely amazing for the price.
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 15:57:06 (permalink)
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    the AKG PERCEPTION 220 is absolutely amazing for the price.

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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 15:59:34 (permalink)
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    the AKG PERCEPTION 220 is absolutely amazing for the price.

    Seriously, you've tried every mic in that price range on every type of instrument and singer and all of the others in that price range are at least one notch below "absolutely amazing"?
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    bapu, are you high or stoned?
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    Re:Is it at all possible to buy a quality vocal condenser mic for $100-150? 2012/10/07 16:04:55 (permalink)
    @offnote... Thanks. I see quite a few people mentioning a bit of a problem in the high mid range though. I kind of need that to snag the rattly timbre in my voice and as I said I do occasionally venture into the squeaker range... and also would like something to snag my acoustic guitar tracks. Cheers.
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