Alex Elzer
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Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
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Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change? for instance I'm using sonar as a master clock for my hardware sequencers via midi but when i want to change the tempo i must type the bpm in the tempo venster. If I can assign a midi knob to that, it would be more dynamic and easier.
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/24 20:15:43
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Use the hardware sequencer as the master, slave SONAR to the sequencer clock, and use the tempo knob on your sequencer.
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/25 08:58:16
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Hi Craig thanks for the replied I was thinking about that but unfortunately my hardware synths and sequencers don't use midi. The only thing digital is my midi to clock, cv and gate converter. I'm very old berlin school. I'm afraid I have a project this weekend and build myself a master clock unit 
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/25 09:04:10
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Sounds like you'd really like Arturia BeatStep Pro, it can interface with just about anything and it's a very stable master clock.
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Alex Elzer
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/25 09:39:16
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Nice tip
I've just ordered one, Save's a lot of time
Thanks
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/25 09:45:03
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You'll love it. It's even pretty easy to use, but you can go really deep if you want to. It's also much advanced compared to the original BeatStep. Being able to drive a MIDI synth, something over USB, and a CV/Gate Minimoog is quite cool 
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/26 12:54:00
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Anderton
Use the hardware sequencer as the master, slave SONAR to the sequencer clock, and use the tempo knob on your sequencer.
Anderton
You'll love it. It's even pretty easy to use, but you can go really deep if you want to. It's also much advanced compared to the original BeatStep. Being able to drive a MIDI synth, something over USB, and a CV/Gate Minimoog is quite cool
so, I've tried a few things here trying to slave Sonar's tempo to an MPC and Maschine without success- obviously, I need to read a bit more, but am fairly limited on personal free time- (I am a bit concerned I might irrevocably screw things up, just clicking ) would you (or any other forum member) be kind enough to indulge me and post how I might enable Sonar to slave tempo to hardware, or is that a specific capability of the Beatstep ? Thanks in advance
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/26 14:22:07
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LaszloZoltan
how I might enable Sonar to slave tempo to hardware, or is that a specific capability of the Beatstep ?
I usually sync things to SONAR so I'm a little rusty on the reverse but I have done it in the past. If someone doesn't answer here I'll do it as a tip of the week. IIIRC it's kind of a "combination lock" where several different parameters have to be set correctly for things to work. Often it's a preference on the hardware device, e.g., making sure stop/start is enabled as well as MIDI clock.
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/26 14:51:42
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ok, so...not quite so easy then ? I almost bought a beatstep pro on the way home from work this morning, you made it sound so easy peasy...and then I thought, waitaminute....
(no probs- just having fun here)
welp, this ought to be an interesting thread
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/26 14:53:31
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LaszloZoltan
ok, so...not quite so easy then ? I almost bought a beatstep pro on the way home from work this morning, you made it sound so easy peasy...and then I thought, waitaminute....
Well, it IS easy...once you figure it out
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Alex Elzer
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/26 14:54:03
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If you are using eurorack, you can use the a-190-1 as midi to cv, gate and clock converter. set in clock parameters send midi clock and you have a clock pulse on the a-90. You can then use a clock divider to get the timing you want.
This how i work now.
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/26 15:15:45
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LaszloZoltan
ok, so...not quite so easy then ? I almost bought a beatstep pro on the way home from work this morning, you made it sound so easy peasy...and then I thought, waitaminute....
Well, it IS easy...once you figure it out
that's what I used to tell my kids when they had problems with their math homework....then, with math being a favorite subject, I'd lecture them to tears on it, now, they don't tell me- they just go to mom
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Alex Elzer
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/28 13:49:28
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Hi Craig
I've got the beatstep pro. And it's fun, but i wonder how you have manage to slave sonar to it.
The start stop is no problem but tempo change i can't figure it out (even read the manual)
I must have missed something
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/28 14:24:45
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I'll look into doing step-by-step instructions for this week's "Friday's Tip of the Week."
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/28 15:26:05
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Re: Is it possible to assign a midi knob to the tempo change?
2016/04/28 16:25:25
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Be aware that soft synth tracks will not follow tempo changes from an external source. Here's a post/thread about this and other issues related to slaving SONAR to a changing tempo from an external clock source (e.g. SONAR does not display or record tempo changes from an external clock, either): http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3317639 It occurs to me that a workaround for the buffering/pre-rendering issue with soft synths would be to route the MIDI out and back in using a virtual MIDI cable like LoopBE so that soft synth output is generated in real time rather than being pre-rendered. Awkward, but should work.
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