Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7?

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2010/01/19 23:03:54 (permalink)

Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7?

Hi,

With 4 bcf2000s and 3 bcr2000s plus one midi keyboard I have hit the wall in xp with regard to the midi limit imposed by that operating system. If I plug in my tranzport I loose the functionality of my final bcr2000.

Is this limit eliminated or at least raised in Windows 7?

Thank you.
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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 08:40:20 (permalink)
    Wow, that is interesting to know. I do have a UM880 by Edirol So that one midipatcher ups my number to 8 in 8 out. I'm told a system will accept 4 of those UM880's.

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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 08:57:44 (permalink)
    First of all XP should be able to handle 10 MIDI  ports when it first came out now with SP 2 and higher its 32 ports. Vista has no limits on the number of MIDI ports. You are not at the point where you have used up all the ports.

    I suspect you have another problem with your setup. You could be pulling too much power from the USB ports.

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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 09:05:10 (permalink)
    Thanks John for you reply. I did not know that about xp sp2 being 32 ports.

    Interestingly enough, the bcr I loose is connected via 5 pin midi to a soundcard.

    Cheers.
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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 09:18:54 (permalink)
    It could be a driver conflict. I do not think its due to any MIDI port limits. Also be very sure that everything is connected and on before you run Sonar.

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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 09:23:07 (permalink)
    I was asking about this sorry if I was unclear.

    Is this limit gone in win 7 whether or not it's my immediate issue or not.

    http://www.cakewalk.com/s...eader.aspx?ID=20090210

    Thank you.
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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 09:27:02 (permalink)
    bitman


    I was asking about this sorry if I was unclear.

    Is this limit gone in win 7 whether or not it's my immediate issue or not.

    http://www.cakewalk.com/s...eader.aspx?ID=20090210

    Thank you.


    It is gone in Vista therefore its more then likely it also gone in Windows 7 too.

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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 09:33:29 (permalink)
    Correcting the Windows MIDI Device Limit Issue
    When Windows XP has installed over a certain number of MIDI devices, it will refuse to show any new ones
    until you delete some of the existing ones. The catch? Windows considers ANY device you've ever connected
    to be a valid installed device, and it won't show you these installed (although currently unused) MIDI devices
    in the Device Manager EVEN IF you select the 'Show hidden devices' option.
    Fortunately there is a way to force Windows to be honest with you, but it involves writing a key to your
    registry.
    NOTE: Editing your registry requires great care - You could prevent Windows from running correctly if you
    make any mistakes. Psicraft Designs and/or TC Electronic will not be responsible if you damage your windows
    installation while following these instructions, so take care or have a qualified friend perform the operation if
    in doubt.
    Here is how you can check your Windows XP machine out to make sure your issues are not because of the
    device limit being reached: First, unplug your MIDI Interface’s USB cable from the computer, then follow
    these 10 steps...
    Before you proceed, make sure to back up the registry, and make sure that you understand how to restore
    the registry if a problem occurs. See http://support.microsoft....x?scid=kb;EN-US;256986
    (Microsoft Knowledge Base article 256986) for more information.
    Steps 3-6 are optional, and are for your safety.
    1. Click on the Start menu, then select Run.
    2. Type in regedit and click OK.
    3. Click on the File menu, and select Export.
    4. Set the directory where you are saving the registry file to your Desktop.
    5. Type in any name for the file, and make sure All is selected.
    6. Click SAVE, and verify that it has created a backup file on your desktop.
    7. Navigate to the System Key called:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
    Manager\Environment].
    8. If there is an entry called DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES already there, make sure its
    value is set to 1. If the value is missing from within the Key, Right-Click over the listing and select
    NEW->String Value from the pop-up menu.
    9. Rename the new REG_SZ (String Value) to DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES and set
    its value to 1. (1 = show all hidden devices, incidentally).
    10. Exit regedit and restart your computer.
    11. On restart, open your control panel, select the system icon, select the Hardware tab in the
    System Properties dialog and then press the 'Device Manager' button. Now for the magic part:
    Open Device Manager's View menu and check the 'Show hidden devices' option.
    12. With the new registry key in place, Device Manager will actually do something for a change when this
    option has been checked. You can now click on the 'Sound, video and game controllers' icon and
    you'll see all the ghost MIDI and Audio interfaces that windows has installed.
    13. Delete any ghosted out 'USB Audio Device' icons you see. If you see any MIDI interface drivers for
    hardware you no longer own, feel free to delete these too. If you delete a ghosted driver for hardware
    you still own, this will not cause any harm except to require you to reinstall the drivers the next time
    you connect that MIDI device.
    14. For good measure, click on the 'Universal Serial Bus controllers' icon and delete any ghosted USB
    Composite devices you see (especially if there are lots of them): This will require that Windows
    reinstall drivers the next time you reconnect some of your less used peripherals, but this should not
    be a problem.
    15. Make sure that any Logitech web-cam drivers are not hanging around in ghost form! Delete them if
    you find them.
    16. Now reboot and reconnect your USB MIDI Device. Once Windows informs you the device is ready to
    use, launch Vyzor and see if the interface’s MIDI in ports are now available.
    This concludes the Vyzor G-System Troubleshooting PDF Manual. It’s a good idea for you to also read
    the companion PDF manuals like the Vyzor G-System Quick-Start, Vyzor G-System User’s Guide and
    Data Management with Vyzor G-System for a more complete view of how the editor operates. Just as
    with this PDF, these PDF files are also accessible from the program’s Manuals pull down menu.

    post edited by John - 2010/01/20 09:34:37

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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 10:22:08 (permalink)
    As I understood the problem, it was a Midi driver limitation in XP. One Midi device can have several midi drivers. I have never heard the solution John has posted and sure would have liked to have tryed it. But yes the Midi driver limitation present in XP is no longer a problem in win 7. I beleive it is unlimited.
    post edited by Crg - 2010/01/20 10:23:11

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    Re:Is the MIDI device/port limit gone in windows 7? 2010/01/20 17:50:10 (permalink)
    If you don't want to edit the registry, as an alternative to John's method save this to a .bat file & run from the desktop
     
    set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
    start Devmgmt.msc

    Then select "show hidden" in device manager.
    It's a non permanent way of displaying nonpresent devices.

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