All I can say is dont let your A$$ door you on the way hit. I have been a Sonar/Cakewalk customer since V3 in DOS.

ORIGINAL: John

Oh here is a tidbit for you I use Firefox on Vista. I didn't go to the Microsoft web site to let them know. Should I?

Why not? They might appreciate the feedback, although doubtful considering that it's Microsoft. Regardless, the difference is, Cakewalk listens to its customers and that's one of many reasons that many of us stick with them.

ORIGINAL: Cheeto

ORIGINAL: MemphisJo

Even if you are a hobbyist I recommend that get a business license and set up a small business, all your gear will be much cheaper....

Really? Could you expand on how that is possible in the hobbyist sense?

I think Cj covered it for ya... do some research on line as to how to set up a small business in your State / City. Just having a business license will save you sales tax on items purchased at Costco.

First of all, I am a loyal Sonar Producer fan. I have no intention of jumping the ship. But, the original poster has a point. Have you ever called tech support for information you needed right away? Forget it! The first 20 minutes you think, "it will be any minute now". After 40 minutes your mind becomes a soup created by overdose of very obnoxious music that nobody in their right mind listens to...especially through a telephone speaker. After 5 hours you are driving home still waiting for an answer to a call you initiated during lunch break. After about six hours, you wake up on the crisis unit wondering what the He## happened. Sonar is a great product. I plan to ride the train for a long time. But if you REALLY need to talk to someone live ASAP, you better have good insurance for mental health services. You're going to need it! Hey, is that John Lennon talking to Elvis and Jesus over there??

Groundhog, NOS

CJaysMusic, MemphisJo,

I am going to start another thread on the particular subject we were conversing upon. If you or anyone else would like to continue this discussion please visit the new thread I wil start here in the Coffe House as to not distract from the current circus sideshow.

@Digitalhect, I don't see you having a real SONAR issue that anyone could offer you help with. Seems your first beef is with GC. In that case the answer is real simple, simply don't shop there any more. I gave up on them along time ago. In my case the negative experiences have outweighed the positive so much that I won't even buy guitar picks from them, nor their sister enterprise MF. I'd much rather give the business to a local mom&pop business just down the street from them even if it costs me more, but at least they don't jerk me around, and dealing with the same people who know me is comforting.

Your other beef is pricing, but hey what can you do about that? You do have a right to voice you opinion, but if you don't have the discretionary income, simply just don't buy it. You probably don't need the latest and greatest program to get the job done. Odds are you have plenty of features already in the version you own that you don't utilize, so why pay for an upgrade for more of the same unless absolutely warranted? If you choose another sequencer more than likely it will cost you more time and $$$ than a S8 upgrade. My advice is sit back relax, and use what you've already have to the fullest extent. Whatever your choice I wish you no ill will whatsoever and wish you the best of luck with making music.