Is there a way to change an audio tracks tempo after recording ?

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2011/01/01 19:20:37 (permalink)

Is there a way to change an audio tracks tempo after recording ?

Hi all

I hope you can help

I have a song Ive been working on that is at 180 bpm but now its recorded I feel its a little to fast and cold do with bing just about 170 or 175 bpm.....

I have recorded all my drums in midi and have recorded my bass track and double tracked my guitars I was quite happy with it all

So I decided to go back to it today and start to put some vocals down on it but ive hit a problem......
The tempo feels just a little to fast when I sing over it almost like I am raping my words so I will need to change the tempo to what I think will be 175 bpm or in the worst case 170 bpm

I know the midi will just change to whatever speed I change the tempo to but what about the audio is there anything I can do ?

Is there a way to change the audio ( bass and guitar tracks ) With out haveing to re record them ?

If need be I will just record them again I dont mind :)

Just thought I should ask here incase I ever run in to this type of problem again in the future incase there is an easy fix for it  ?

I like to learn this type of thing and its going to be handy to know if I can or not :)

Thanks for all help on this one and a very happy new year to all !

Norrie

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    CJaysMusic
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    Re:Is there a way to change an audio tracks tempo after recording ? 2011/01/01 19:24:37 (permalink)
    Audio snap does this with great results Norrie. There are a bunch of videos on audio snap, but audio snap is the tool you need.
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    Re:Is there a way to change an audio tracks tempo after recording ? 2011/01/01 19:28:51 (permalink)
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    Audio snap does this with great results Norrie. There are a bunch of videos on audio snap, but audio snap is the tool you need.
    Cj


    Hey CJ good to hear from you!

    Thanks for that I will check out the videos and give it a bash :)

    I was hopeing to catch you on here at some point I will Pm you .

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    Re:Is there a way to change an audio tracks tempo after recording ? 2011/01/02 00:43:10 (permalink)
    Hi Norrie
    Good to see your still posting.
     
    CJ is offering good advice… Wow! My first post for the year and I’m agreeing with CJ, looks like it’s going to be a strange year indeed.
     
    FWIW My I talk about my own pain and suffering with regards to tempo once a song instrumentally is close to completion! I like what I here Right! I can’t wait to lay down the vocals. I start recording and what I thought would be easy to sing at selected tempo is impossible. I stumble and splutter as if I’m on my second bottle of red.
     
    In your post you said “The tempo feels just a little to fast when I sing over it” Now here is a question for you.  And firstly let me say that I believe you are competent and talented person. Is it to fast or have you not learnt you vocals well enough to sing at 180bpm. My experience on a bunch of songs is just that. I did not work hard enough at pronunciation and my lack of articulation and intonation brought me unstuck. And this is where my pain and suffering started. I convinced my self I needed to reduce tempo 5bpm or more, spent hour’s friging around with it, singing at different tempos to discover that the original tempo was right. Why I did not trust myself is beyond reason. This has happened to me on more songs then I care to admit. So I wont.
     
    So if I may suggest to you.
    Firstly bounce all tracks down to one track.
    Hold down control and drag the end of the clip in. unfortunately readout is in percentage and not bmp
    Now frig around with it, Sing It Sing It Sing It…  and bear in mind that you may find after trying many many tempos that you now have become accustomed to the song well enough that the original tempo hits the Goldie-locks order. That is to say not to hot and not to cold or not to fast and not to slow.
     
    Q. Why is music so hard to get right?
    A. Because if it was easy it wouldn’t be so rewarding
     
     
    I wish you well and hope my reply helps you. Happy New Year to you and all forum members… GlennP

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    Re:Is there a way to change an audio tracks tempo after recording ? 2011/01/02 10:12:37 (permalink)
    Hi Glen!
    Thanks for the reply

    Haha of course I am posteing if I am not recording I dont have much else to do with my time apart from anoy you guys with questions  ;)

    I think your right and it could be a bit of both on my parts

    I will normaly write all my tracks as Instrumentals although this one song I am working on I had an idea for lyrics before I was finished recording the instruments

    It feels like when I hold a not at the end of a sentntance in the song its just to short Ive tryed and tryed and tryed to get it right .

    What I did was muted all the tracks aart from the drums and changed the bpm to 170 and 175 and it feels a lot better more flowing.
    Its very much a drum driven song so I was lucky I could try it that way and after hearing it droped down to 175 and 170 my accents on the kit seem to just feel better :)

    I plan to have another bash today at the vocals siting at 180 before I have to change them but if its not right then I will have no choice than to find a way to get it to fit

    That or find another singer .... haha any takers ? :P

    Thanks again and a Happy New Year to you aswell !

    Norrie


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    Re:Is there a way to change an audio tracks tempo after recording ? 2011/01/02 10:35:05 (permalink)
    My advice is to back up the entire project before working audiosnap.  You want to be able to get back to where you started from and not worry about experimenting.  Be sure to copy all your audio into the back up folder. 
     
    The process should be something like:
    1.  Set the project tempo to the desired beat, i.e. 170-175
    2.  Enable audiosnap in the audio clip.  Dicker with the threshold, move the transients, ect. till you have the transients on the desired beats. 
    3.  Hit the clip follows project button.  The transients should be somewhat lined up with the time ruler. 
    4.  Clean up the loose ends.
     
    Hope it works out.  I would love to hear how you make out with it.  I've been trying for a while to get a better handle on audiosnap and find how it works for other people.
     
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    Re:Is there a way to change an audio tracks tempo after recording ? 2011/01/02 13:42:14 (permalink)
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    My advice is to back up the entire project before working audiosnap.  You want to be able to get back to where you started from and not worry about experimenting.  Be sure to copy all your audio into the back up folder. 
     
    The process should be something like:
    1.  Set the project tempo to the desired beat, i.e. 170-175
    2.  Enable audiosnap in the audio clip.  Dicker with the threshold, move the transients, ect. till you have the transients on the desired beats. 
    3.  Hit the clip follows project button.  The transients should be somewhat lined up with the time ruler. 
    4.  Clean up the loose ends.
     
    Hope it works out.  I would love to hear how you make out with it.  I've been trying for a while to get a better handle on audiosnap and find how it works for other people.
     
    -Mike
     


    Hi Mike

    Not a Problem this is one thing I want to figure out for future reference so as soon as I am done I will send you a msg and send you both musical versions if you like so you can hear ?

    I always back up my work before makeing any big changes haha some times I back it up so much I end up loseing what the rigional wasan have about 10 different versions of one song but thats a story for another day :)

    I am going to get working on it tonight

    I will let you know how I get on

    Norrie

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