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Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
This would really simplify my life. I teach using my laptop and about half the time I use an USB interface and the other half I use the internal sound.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/28 14:31:41
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That is the problem. You use them both. You have to let one of them go if you want one to be your default. This can be done in the Pref/audio /devices area by not selecting the one you don't want. Or deselecting it.
Really its having the dual usage that is screwing up a pleasant encounter.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/28 17:00:54
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I have two USB connected recording devices, a Roland Octa-Capture (my main unit) and also an MAudio Fastrack Ultra 8R. Whichever one is powered on when I start Sonar, will be detected and set as the recording device by Sonar. I don't have to do any manual setup.
Also, with Windows 7 ( I have Win 7 Professional 64 bit) when I power on one of the recording devices Windows automatically sets it as the default playback device. When I power the recording device off, Windows reverts to my PC sound card as the default playback device.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/28 17:58:13
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John
That is the problem. You use them both. You have to let one of them go if you want one to be your default. This can be done in the Pref/audio /devices area by not selecting the one you don't want. Or deselecting it.
Really its having the dual usage that is screwing up a pleasant encounter.
It sure wold be nice to have a select-able default so when I'm not constantly going into the device settings.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/28 18:06:29
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fireberd
I have two USB connected recording devices, a Roland Octa-Capture (my main unit) and also an MAudio Fastrack Ultra 8R. Whichever one is powered on when I start Sonar, will be detected and set as the recording device by Sonar. I don't have to do any manual setup.
Also, with Windows 7 ( I have Win 7 Professional 64 bit) when I power on one of the recording devices Windows automatically sets it as the default playback device. When I power the recording device off, Windows reverts to my PC sound card as the default playback device.
That won't work in my situation since the on-board drivers are always there. If Sonar doesn't detect the last driver used it says there is no driver and and makes me manually choose one. I go back and forth between the on-board and USB interfaces a lot so this is a pain. I suppose that if I had 2 USB devices and only one was present at a time I'd have the same experience that you have. For Windows 7, as you said it will switch with no interaction from me. I wish Sonar could to that.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/28 19:08:23
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I once had a problem with a SoundBlaster Xfi sound card interferring with Sonar, when I had 8.5.3. The SoundBlaster had ASIO drivers and everytime I started Sonar it would automatically pickup the SoundBlaster as the default device rather than the recording device (a Saffire Pro 40 at the time). I would have to manually select the Pro 40 after I started Sonar and if I opened/loaded a different project (song) I would have to select the Saffire Pro 40 again. I finally had enough and removed the SoundBlaster Xfi and installed a different sound card that didn't have an ASIO driver (an HT Omega Striker 7.1 that I was using in a different PC). No more problems after that, every time I started Sonar it automatically picked up the Saffire Pro 40 (provided, of course, if it was powered on and connected).
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/28 19:40:18
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Hmm, in the driver settings in preferences in sonar, you can uncheck the drivers for every sound card you do not want sonar to ever use. Does this not work? always has worked for me.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/28 19:41:58
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fireberd,
That may be part of my problem - 2 ASIO drivers. I use ASIO4ALL when I'm using the internal sound. I don't know any way around that since the native drivers are useless for audio.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 01:27:31
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There's an open source project called "jackaudio", it uses an ASio driver, that uses an ASio driver, in short. (and it lets you route audio between apps). It's a little bit "technical" to set up, but you could set up two jack server configurations for your two cards, run the one you need, and always use the jackrouter ASio driver with sonar...
The driver does not add latency to your setup!
Might be worth a try?
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 02:31:46
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Lanceindastudio
Hmm, in the driver settings in preferences in sonar, you can uncheck the drivers for every sound card you do not want sonar to ever use. Does this not work? always has worked for me.
Lance
As said that is the way to do it.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 05:23:17
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Isn't that information kept somewhere in a file (or the registry)? I don't have my DAW computer here, so I cannot check. But if it is, it might be as easy as to create a small batch file that copies the correct file (or registry key) (one with the USB int, and one without - keep them somewhere else from the Sonar directory) or sets the correct registry setting, then starts sonar.
The thing would be to find out which file (or registry key), but maybe someone here knows by heart :)
The only problem I see is if that file is also used for something else which changes between sessions... You might be able to parse the file, and change the entries, but that wouldn't be that easy as creating a simple batch file.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 05:33:49
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Remember that the OP is using a USB interface intermittently. If the setup file is edited Sonar will just rewrite it when it sees a different device.
I can't think of any solution that would allow the OP to plugin the USB device and also use the on board device in a round robin default way. Default means no change in this case.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 05:38:33
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Usually if I say 'not that I know of' someone comes a long and says 'actually you can'. With that in mind:
Not that I know of.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 06:33:54
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John
Remember that the OP is using a USB interface intermittently. If the setup file is edited Sonar will just rewrite it when it sees a different device.
I can't think of any solution that would allow the OP to plugin the USB device and also use the on board device in a round robin default way. Default means no change in this case.
John, of course, you are right. But I meant creating two icons. One that copies the file with the settings for the USB interface, and another that copies the internal interface. Once the file is copied, it starts sonar. Something like: StartUSB.cmd: copy whateverfilewithUSB.ini c:\program files\cakewalk\sonar\... start c:\program files\cakewalk\sonar\sonarprd.exe startInternal.cmd copy whateverfilewithinternal.ini c:\program files\cakewalk\sonar\... start c:\program files\cakewalk\sonar\sonarprd.exe That way, it would basically overwrite the file with the correct setting for each interface. But, as I said, if the same file keeps data that changes between sessions, it would also cause a problem. Also, if the OP clicks the wrong file, it still wouldn't work, but no harm would be done, as you can just close, and start the correct script. It's far from perfect, but it might come partway for the OP...
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 06:38:56
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After I wrote that I was thinking this would be a neat use for macros in X1.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 06:51:39
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Sonar has macros?  It's definitely time to go through the manual... and the scott garisson book :)
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 06:58:21
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No! LOL It doesn't. That is my point. LOL
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 07:17:17
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I have problems with ASIO4ALL that I tried one time for a device that did not have ASIO drivers - the device still didn't work and ASIO4ALL screwed up the drivers for my Saffire Pro 40, and had to do a System Restore and then reinstall the Saffire Pro 40 drivers before it would work. That was also in the 8.5.3 days. Never tried it with X1.
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 07:36:23
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IIRC, if you are using ASIO then the order is alphabetical based on how they listed in the registry, and whether they are physically present. It is possible to edit the list order by renaming the folders. In the past I have put a 'z' in front of those that were intruding, like the POD, and they go to the back of the queue. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/ASIO As with all registry tweeks, back-up first, and AMFYOYO (Adios my friend you're on your own) 
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Re:Is there a way to make Sonar X1D default to a specific interface if it is present?
2012/03/29 11:43:34
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cliffsp8
IIRC, if you are using ASIO then the order is alphabetical based on how they listed in the registry, and whether they are physically present.
It is possible to edit the list order by renaming the folders. In the past I have put a 'z' in front of those that were intruding, like the POD, and they go to the back of the queue.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/ASIO
As with all registry tweeks, back-up first, and AMFYOYO (Adios my friend you're on your own)
That's interesting. Maybe I'll play around with that but sometimes Sonar says there are no drivers and when I got to look they are there but are all unchecked. I then check the one I want and I'm good. This usually happens when I open Sonar after using the USB driver that is no longer present. The behavior I wish I had was that if the USB driver was present Sonar would use that. If it's not present Sonar would use ASIO4ALL. I was hoping there was some sort of initialization file entry that would work.
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