Is there any difference in system performance between 8 and 16GB's?

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2012/03/28 01:47:28 (permalink)

Is there any difference in system performance between 8 and 16GB's?

OK, if I'm running Sonar X1 with a bunch of other VSTs, is a system with 16GB's of memory going to give me a system performance boost over 8GB's? Anyone has 8GB's and run into any kind of performance issue? Or anyone who upgraded from 8 to 16 and if that made any difference in speed and performance.


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    Kalle Rantaaho
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    Re:Is there any difference in system performance between 8 and 16GB's? 2012/03/28 02:58:13 (permalink)
    If you're not running a 64 bit system, the question is irrelevant.
    If you're running 64 bit, then it depends on what you are doing. The performance does not improve from 8 Gb to 16 Gb if you don't need more than 8 Gb of RAM for the things you do.
    You can check from the task manager how your RAM usage is when running average tasks you do. There you can estimate if you're short of RAM.

    Asking questions like this, and the recent CPU thread of ours, I suggest you put your specs in the signature.

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    Re:Is there any difference in system performance between 8 and 16GB's? 2012/03/28 12:07:13 (permalink)
    The answer depends on whether you need greater than 8GB of RAM.
     
    If you're not using 8GB of RAM, adding another 8GB won't affect (improve) performance.
    If you're consuming 8GB of RAM, then adding additional RAM will prevent the DAW from using the VM swapfile in lieu of real physical RAM (which kills performance).  So it would help performance in a "RAM starved" scenario...

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    Re:Is there any difference in system performance between 8 and 16GB's? 2012/03/30 19:56:45 (permalink)
    Jim, currently I'm just using 2GB's of ram but once hard drive prices fall - I will have a nice custom built desktop. And of course, my choices will be 4, 8 or 16GB's of ram. I certainly don't want the Swap file kicking in but on the same token, I don' want to be spending money on ram that doesn't get used. How do DAW systems that's configured with 8GB normally run? I won't be doing orchestration type of work or large cinematic type of work, just your run of the mill studio album recording. Also, do you know if adding more memory will help lower the latency since it gives programs more breathing room and helps those programs run faster - I wonder if that will too help with the latency.


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    Re:Is there any difference in system performance between 8 and 16GB's? 2012/03/31 01:16:26 (permalink)
    syntheticpop


    Jim, currently I'm just using 2GB's of ram but once hard drive prices fall - I will have a nice custom built desktop. And of course, my choices will be 4, 8 or 16GB's of ram. I certainly don't want the Swap file kicking in but on the same token, I don' want to be spending money on ram that doesn't get used. How do DAW systems that's configured with 8GB normally run? I won't be doing orchestration type of work or large cinematic type of work, just your run of the mill studio album recording. Also, do you know if adding more memory will help lower the latency since it gives programs more breathing room and helps those programs run faster - I wonder if that will too help with the latency.



    Set up your heaviest task in Sonar. Do Ctrl Alt Del, click Task Manager, choose "performance," run the task and watch the memory usage. Should give you a good idea what you need. I have 12g and never use more than 6 or so. Waste of money. Have thought of using 6g as an old fashioned ram drive for something or other.


    I understand that if you can afford 30g or so you can do fancy things with ram drives that also save your data when you shut down. 
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    Re:Is there any difference in system performance between 8 and 16GB's? 2012/03/31 10:55:04 (permalink)
    Jim, currently I'm just using 2GB's of ram but once hard drive prices fall - I will have a nice custom built desktop. And of course, my choices will be 4, 8 or 16GB's of ram. I certainly don't want the Swap file kicking in but on the same token, I don' want to be spending money on ram that doesn't get used. How do DAW systems that's configured with 8GB normally run? I won't be doing orchestration type of work or large cinematic type of work, just your run of the mill studio album recording. Also, do you know if adding more memory will help lower the latency since it gives programs more breathing room and helps those programs run faster - I wonder if that will too help with the latency.

     
    Hi Synthetic,
     
    If you're not making extensive use of virtual instruments, you'll likely do fine with 8GB of RAM.
    Adding extra RAM (beyond what you need) will have no affect on performance.
    IOW, If you currently run 8GB of RAM... and the system isn't RAM-starved (it's running well), adding an additional 8GB (16GB total) won't improve performance (also won't affect latency).
    Latency is determinded by two things: The audio interface and latent plugins.
    Your machine has to be able to sustain the load at a given ASIO buffer size.
    More speed means you'll be able to sustain greater loads (glitch-free) at a given ASIO buffer size... but (again) it won't allow you to achieve latency lower than what the audio interface and latent plugins allows.
    Note that not all plugins are latent (add additional latency).

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    Re:Is there any difference in system performance between 8 and 16GB's? 2012/04/05 10:42:32 (permalink)
      I'm hearing that memory is relatively inexpensive. In my thinking even if I didn't necessarily need that much memory. I might add it anyway as insurance for any future heavyweight programs I might decide to add in the future.JMPO.

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