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Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
Seeing that my current version of SPlat is working fine, is there any need to get the Bandlab account and download their version (still keeping my SPlat installed to port over 3rd party plugs, etc), at this point?
And WHEN they offer an upgrade, "switch over" at that time?
The tweaks in the new version (piano roll theme, etc) aren't a necessity at this point.
By waiting, does anyone see any problems with that? Kinda like..."if it aint broke...."
Lastly...I see that Bandlab is labeling it as "early access"... Is that something to take advantage of now.
oh...and lastly, lastly... Yes I've read most of the stickies, etc.. and that we are NOT to fear about installing the new version, that great care has been taken to not mess with the old SPlat, etc... but... I'm not seeing an upgrade now, except for the pno roll, etc.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/07 18:55:08
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Set up the BandLab account now so they can migrate your Cakewalk account. Use the same email address. Upgrade to CbB when you feel the need.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/07 18:58:20
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sounds like a plan...thx Scook
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/07 19:43:04
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I am doing the same. I see no need to update at this time since Sonar is running just fine as is. I have signed up with the same email etc and I am ready to get on it when I feel it is warranted.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/07 20:47:59
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I felt this way at first but changed my mind, There's no real reason not to just get it over with and move on. Once I fixed the theme issue I see no difference at all. It's a none upgrade really. A lot of the improvements are invisible unless you use those things.
Just like the update we have been getting for the last few years you can opt in or opt out.
The one thing that Noel said that got my attention is the new CbB is better integrated with W10.
It will be more stable than in the past.
I will see if this is what I've been waiting for to prevent random crashes.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/07 22:10:43
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Cactus Music
I felt this way at first but changed my mind, There's no real reason not to just get it over with and move on. Once I fixed the theme issue I see no difference at all. It's a none upgrade really. A lot of the improvements are invisible unless you use those things.
Just like the update we have been getting for the last few years you can opt in or opt out.
The one thing that Noel said that got my attention is the new CbB is better integrated with W10.
It will be more stable than in the past.
I will see if this is what I've been waiting for to prevent random crashes.
I get what you are saying, I guess having been in the IT industry for so long it is just second nature to NOT want to be first out with anything. I rather have others find bugs and stuff and get it sorted before I get it, if I can help it :) Since it is a "none upgrade" like you say I am not missing out on anything as far as I can tell so short term I can continue to use Sonar as always and wait for a month or so for potential issues to be sorted and move to the new version then. I am getting a new PC too and that plays into this, I rather not mess with anything atm since everything works really well. The Win10 compatibility statement IS interesting though.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/07 22:45:28
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/07 23:56:59
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FYI Quote from Noel;
There are also other internal things in CbB. One small one was the code is compiled for the latest windows SDK which makes it even more Win10 compatible. Its pretty much the same amount of things you would get in a typical new months release last year. Of course there are a ton of things on top of that we had to do to make it a brand new app independent of SONAR. But of course most users don't care about that stuff :)
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 00:04:15
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Well I go back and forth between the two regularly to see if their are any issues like opening a project in one and then opening it in the other. Stuff like that. No issues. I still use my PLat 99.9% of the time because of habit.
So, IMHO, why wait? Just sayin................Anything can happen.....
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 00:20:09
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☄ Helpfulby stratman70 2018/04/08 01:45:49
I grabbed CbB on day one just to get a jump on it. I figured I'd find all the problems early on, then set it aside. But everything went so smoothly I saw no reason not to make the switch permanent. I've been using it daily ever since, only pulling up SPlat a few times to see if CbB had left something out, but aside from dropping that dither option everything (that I need) is in there. C'mon in, the water's fine.
That said, unless you're craving a dark background on your PRV, the only reason I can think of for jumping in immediately is to make sure you get your "dibs" in and assure BandLab knows who you are.
However, if someone's coming from any edition of SONAR other than Platinum, they'll essentially be getting a free upgrade. The only folks who won't want to make the jump are those running on a 32-bit Windows machine. There is no 32-bit version of CbB, and I wouldn't be surprised if they elected not to offer one in the name of streamlining/downsizing the development process. At this time, the dev "team" is primarily Noel.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 02:26:56
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Exactly how it's been for me, I was mad at the new version at first but I've been 2 days full time CbB and I will probably won't open SPlat again.
I even learned about the theme editor something I knew diddly squat about before.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 05:58:55
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Hi there,
what means CdB and SPlat?
Thanks, Tomas
My EquipmentGigabyte GA P35 s3g, 2Gb Ram, Intel Pentium Dual Core 2,66 Ghz, Creamware I Scope 4.5 + SRB Board I, Sonar Platinum, alesis usb 320, Cakewalk A300 Pro, Midicontroller C-Mexx MIR, Turntable SYNQ X-TRM 1, Battle Mixer Numark M2
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 06:00:33
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 06:02:49
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☄ Helpfulby ch.huey 2018/04/08 15:36:28
I'm installing CbB side-by-side with Platinum but only until I verify there aren't any issues. Sonar won't be developed going forward, CbB will, so it's not much of a head-scratcher.
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mixmkr
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 06:13:52
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Anderton
I'm installing CbB side-by-side with Platinum but only until I verify there aren't any issues. Sonar won't be developed going forward, CbB will, so it's not much of a head-scratcher.
except scratching until it's " verified there aren't any issues." Seems like safe water though from most reports.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 15:28:20
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All you have to do to avoid problems is to make sure your VST scan paths are the same in CbB as in SPlat. They do share the same registry key for the VST inventory, and the same scanner executable. So if paths are left out of CbB and a scan is executed (which it will do on first run) when you go back into SONAR some plugins may be missing.
No doubt this will be addressed down the road, after Noel's had time to rewrite VSTScan.exe so that CbB has its own version and its own registry tree. But for now it's at worst a minor inconvenience, and you only have to fix it once.
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 15:58:39
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Hey bitflipper they actually do not share the same vst inventory. I already took care of that. That's why there is a full VST scan when you install CbB. SONAR's inventory is here HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\ SONAR\Cakewalk VST X64 CbB's inventory is here HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\ Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64 So they are already completely independent. PS: I just added migration from a prior VST Platinum/Artist,/Studio etc inventory to the new CbB inventory. This should greatly improve the first run experience if users choose to migrate settings since it will no longer need to rescan the entire set of VST's but use the results of prior scans. This is the most troublesome area when we do new products so I think it will improve things a lot. It will be there in the next update of CbB.
post edited by Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] - 2018/04/08 17:12:50
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 18:05:47
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Thanks for the correction, Noel. After installing CbB, I looked for a BandLab registry tree and couldn't find one because I was searching on "BandLab" rather than "Cakewalk".
Can I presume it now also imports the VST scan paths, so that it's no longer necessary to edit them before scanning?
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 18:18:48
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Bit, does this mean your VST Inventory tool is toast? If so, I will mod mine ASAP to handle CbB.
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mixmkr
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Re: Is there any need to "Update/crossover" to the new CbB, BEFORE the first CbB update?
2018/04/08 18:35:41
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Seeing that Bit and Scook know way more than I do about computers, etc... THIS is why I don't feel like migrating the CbB at this point.
Actually see no hurry until this "early release" is superceded with a more *official* release....which I expect will come waaay before Win10 destroys my SPlat.
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