Is working in Sonar X1 as much fun as gaming?

SteveGriffiths


I primarily use X1 to make backing tracks and loop tracks (for my RC50).  I then sing an play over those tracks in a real time performance that is stream into Second Life.  My Avatar on stage - 30-50 avatars in the audience.  Technically Second Life can be called a video game, so for me it is all one and the same, especially as the performances pay for the equipment.

Cheers

Grif



www.grifbamaisin.com

strikinglyhandsome1


Look at FBB with screensets. It's hard to imagine anyone having more fun than him when he's flicking between them.

You do realise the average age of Sonar users is 62. Gaming to them is playing dominoes.

SteveGriffiths


I primarily use X1 to make backing tracks and loop tracks (for my RC50).  I then sing an play over those tracks in a real time performance that is stream into Second Life.  My Avatar on stage - 30-50 avatars in the audience.  Technically Second Life can be called a video game, so for me it is all one and the same, especially as the performances pay for the equipment.

Cheers

Grif



www.grifbamaisin.com

SteveGriffiths

daryl1968

SteveGriffiths


I primarily use X1 to make backing tracks and loop tracks (for my RC50).  I then sing an play over those tracks in a real time performance that is stream into Second Life.  My Avatar on stage - 30-50 avatars in the audience.  Technically Second Life can be called a video game, so for me it is all one and the same, especially as the performances pay for the equipment.

Cheers

Grif



www.grifbamaisin.com

wow, Steve - for real?

 

   Absolutely - Don't misunderstand me - I still have to work for a living.  I play a 1 hour show each night, get pain in Lindens (Second Life currency) by audience tips, the venue, or both. You can convert Lindens to dollars and vice versa, and bring money in and out of world.  There are a full musicians who perform full time in SL and do nothing else.  The fun thing is that I can play anytime of day or night and still get an audience as Secondlife is global - I can play to Australians at 3am, or Germans at 2 PM  - Music is a small part of Secondlife, but in and of itself it is huge - there are usually 40-50 shows going every hour.

    In some ways it is more interactive than a real life show.  Your audience has name tags, so yo can call them by name, and they can answer back in chat.  Also most of my songs have tambourine parts as I have a group of women who come to my shows - all dancing in sync and playing tambourines.

 On the technical side I am essentially an internet radio station performing  alive broadcast.  There are some interesting challenges.  For one thing you are not trying to create a CD quality music stream, you are trying to sound like you are in a concert hall, arena, pub, or whatever venue you are in.  You also have to be careful not to over master the tracks, as the dynamics of the recorded material will not match the live instruments and vocals.  If you go to www.grifbamaisin.com (Grif is my RL nickname and my avatar name) there is  a video where I was featured in the Portland newspaper.  Also there is a live feed to the page when I am playing- the agenda lists the next performance.


    

(Oops lots of shameless self promotion)


Cheers  Grif


        

How do you guys feel about X1? Is it as fun to work with as much as playing your favorite video game?

SteveGriffiths

daryl1968

SteveGriffiths


I primarily use X1 to make backing tracks and loop tracks (for my RC50).  I then sing an play over those tracks in a real time performance that is stream into Second Life.  My Avatar on stage - 30-50 avatars in the audience.  Technically Second Life can be called a video game, so for me it is all one and the same, especially as the performances pay for the equipment.

Cheers

Grif



www.grifbamaisin.com

wow, Steve - for real?

 

   Absolutely - Don't misunderstand me - I still have to work for a living.  I play a 1 hour show each night, get pain in Lindens (Second Life currency) by audience tips, the venue, or both. You can convert Lindens to dollars and vice versa, and bring money in and out of world.  There are a full musicians who perform full time in SL and do nothing else.  The fun thing is that I can play anytime of day or night and still get an audience as Secondlife is global - I can play to Australians at 3am, or Germans at 2 PM  - Music is a small part of Secondlife, but in and of itself it is huge - there are usually 40-50 shows going every hour.

    In some ways it is more interactive than a real life show.  Your audience has name tags, so yo can call them by name, and they can answer back in chat.  Also most of my songs have tambourine parts as I have a group of women who come to my shows - all dancing in sync and playing tambourines.

 On the technical side I am essentially an internet radio station performing  alive broadcast.  There are some interesting challenges.  For one thing you are not trying to create a CD quality music stream, you are trying to sound like you are in a concert hall, arena, pub, or whatever venue you are in.  You also have to be careful not to over master the tracks, as the dynamics of the recorded material will not match the live instruments and vocals.  If you go to www.grifbamaisin.com (Grif is my RL nickname and my avatar name) there is  a video where I was featured in the Portland newspaper.  Also there is a live feed to the page when I am playing- the agenda lists the next performance.


    

(Oops lots of shameless self promotion)


Cheers  Grif


        

bobguitkillerleft

SteveGriffiths


I primarily use X1 to make backing tracks and loop tracks (for my RC50).  I then sing and play over those tracks in a real time performance that is streamed into Second Life.  My Avatar on stage - 30-50 avatars in the audience.  Technically Second Life can be called a video game, so for me it is all one and the same, especially as the performances pay for the equipment.

Cheers

Grif



www.grifbamaisin.com

That is seriously bizzarre to me [47 played pro 80s/90s,gave it all away till 1st computer ever at join date]


Iv'e tried a few games/flight simulators,nothing like WOW,or Battlefield,or Crysis[which look to have amazing realistic graphics]but finally getting as good a quality of sound as recording in Sydney's EMI 301,or CBS studio-East Sydney,for a couple grand all up is bloody amazing,though to go from 15 years of not being able to record "With That Quality" to sooo many variables and choices,has been insanely overwhelming.


I don't have time for games I don't think.


DAW software and plugins,can do sooo much,sometimes I'm swamped in the endless choices,and just use X1 as a fantastic jamming tool,when I should be getting all those ideas,that have been waiting,for a situation "without" a record company/bandmates/engineers telling me-Nah that's a bit too out there for Rock n Roll man!


Sincerity dependant on amount of kick drum in THE mix -Bob S.

daveny5


Since gaming actually produces nothing worthwhile, I prefer Sonar. 

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SteveGriffiths

bobguitkillerleft

SteveGriffiths


I primarily use X1 to make backing tracks and loop tracks (for my RC50).  I then sing and play over those tracks in a real time performance that is streamed into Second Life.  My Avatar on stage - 30-50 avatars in the audience.  Technically Second Life can be called a video game, so for me it is all one and the same, especially as the performances pay for the equipment.

Cheers

Grif



www.grifbamaisin.com

That is seriously bizzarre to me [47 played pro 80s/90s,gave it all away till 1st computer ever at join date]


Iv'e tried a few games/flight simulators,nothing like WOW,or Battlefield,or Crysis[which look to have amazing realistic graphics]but finally getting as good a quality of sound as recording in Sydney's EMI 301,or CBS studio-East Sydney,for a couple grand all up is bloody amazing,though to go from 15 years of not being able to record "With That Quality" to sooo many variables and choices,has been insanely overwhelming.


I don't have time for games I don't think.


DAW software and plugins,can do sooo much,sometimes I'm swamped in the endless choices,and just use X1 as a fantastic jamming tool,when I should be getting all those ideas,that have been waiting,for a situation "without" a record company/bandmates/engineers telling me-Nah that's a bit too out there for Rock n Roll man!


Sincerity dependant on amount of kick drum in THE mix -Bob S.

   A different way of performing perhaps, but not sure why Bizarre.  Although SL technically is a game, it is more like a social environment on steroids - there is no built in goal, everything in SL is built by the residents.  Graphically, it is amazing, and the avatars and the objects have a huge physics engine behind them.  I am a programmer by day, and don't have the time to go out an play every night.  This way I can perform, make a little money and de-stress.  I enjoy creating music, writing when it comes to me, but I get more pleasure performing than recording.  My history was live engineering - arena level - I was BOC's live engineer for a few years, and that had the same adrenalin rush as being on the stage.


 One thing that is challenging - when you do a tour, you can rehearse, and then play the same 12 songs every day for 6 months as you have a different audience at every show.  In Second Life, you build a pool of regulars who come to many shows, and you also have a lot of competition, so you need to keep adding and changing your material, as there are another 30-50 shows gong on a button click away.



Food for thought


Cheers


Grif

Hey Steve,I mean't  it in a wow,thats seriously,cool,sorry if there was a misunderstanding,My lingo often gets me into trouble,not yet a year.


BOC,wow,a hard touring band I played with in the 80s and 90s that did 98% their own stuff did a cover[one of very few] of "Don't Fear the Reaper",the lead guitarist Chris Masuak,had Buck Dahrma.s leads down pat,amazing song.


Cheers Bob S.