Issue With Tape Sim - Memory Leak?

Try this - just activate an instance of the Tape Sim in the ProChannel for any softsynth (I am using simple instrument tracks if it matters). Turn it on and set "noise" to about 50%, and confirm it is working correctly by playing something from the synth. (I have tried both Lounge Lizard full version and Truepianos full version). Turn down your master fader...... and wait. (Somewhere around 45 minutes to an hour, not really sure on the timeframe.)
I have the 90db meters (default I think) on track view - and I can watch the sound slowly climb up on the meter - turn off the Tape Sim and its gone, turn it back on, and the meter continues to climb - 
Last night I left my DAW running with everything as I left it with an instance of the tape sim in Lounge Lizard - later that evening I heard a deep thrumming sound from my studio that was evidently originating from the Tape Sim - I reset the sound card, no difference - turned off the Tape Sim, then back on - still there. I can remove it and put in a new instance, and it is gone. This morning I confirmed the issue by using a different soft synth (True Pianos). 
Can anybody else confirm?
 
 

gswitz
Me too.

Thanks Geoff

We are looking into this issue.

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
We are looking into this issue.

Thanks Andrew

Attempting to Repro now...

I was not able to reproduce this, but maybe I am missing a step somewhere.
 
I will try again tomorrow - perhaps I am not leaving it for long enough.

 I like it so far, but I've got the noise knob turned all the way down. I've been comparing to Saturn and Reelbus. All three sound good to me.

Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
Attempting to Repro now...

Hi Dan - please advise if you need any additional information to reproduce this problem.
 
thank you

bitflipper

brundlefly
This is the first plug-in I've seen that deliberately emulates a ground loop. I can't help but think this emulator is one big April Fools joke. 

That's how I feel about tape sims and console emulators in general. Emulating a ground loop makes about as much sense as emulating channel crosstalk.
 
I'm still waiting for the tape sim that gradually alters the pitch of the project to simulate stretching, rolls off the highs and inserts random dropouts to simulate flaking, and bleeds the kick and bass into adjacent tracks if you let the project sit for a few months. Let's also make sure the Rewind key takes 20 seconds to work and doesn't always stop at the same place. Or the ultimate simulation, the one that randomly "breaks" and spools the virtual tape out onto the floor, requiring a virtual splicing block and razor to continue recording.

Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]

Brando

Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]Attempting to Repro now...

Hi Dan - please advise if you need any additional information to reproduce this problem. thank you

Thanks man, I wasn't able to reproduce this correctly.  Could you possible PM or Post a detailed step by step? I LOVE pictures and videos :)

Don't need much detail -
1) Any audio track
2) Open and turn on Prochannel and add an instance of the Tape Sim. Turn it on, Turn "noise" to full (not necessary but will allow you to see the problem in a reasonable timeframe.
3) Wait ( just now it took about 7-8 minutes before I noticed the meter on the audio track beginning to show. This is with the 90 db meters on my tracks.
4) literally there is no ceiling that I can see - the noise just continues to climb. If someone forgets or doesn't know about this i they could blow their monitors. After a couple of hours my monitors were HUMMING and the meter on my MAIN buss was solidly in the red.
5) if you can't reproduce this you aren't waiting long enough. Seriously,

jb101

brundlefly

jb101I was not able to reproduce this, but maybe I am missing a step somewhere. I will try again tomorrow - perhaps I am not leaving it for long enough.

The noise level increase was very slow on my system, even with the noise level maxed out, which purportedly increases the rate. I would say it took at least 30 minutes to rise 10dB, but it was definitely a steady increase that could not be reset except by removing the module.

I thought I had left it that long, but didn't see an increase.  It seemed to be the same.  I will try it again when I get the chance to leave Sonar alone for longer..

Thanks for checking JB - I just tried it on a plain jane audio track, I can even turn off the tape sim after it has been initially engaged, and (if I flip the tape sim back on), the sound has kept right on climbing. After a half hour or so it's a definite audible drone. If you and Dan can't reproduce it I'd sure like to know why it is happening - because although I really like the tape sim I wouldn't use it as it is,
Thanks again for checking, just don't forget it on in a track-

jb101
I'm off to bed now (early night, only ten to one here in U.K.). If I have a chance I'll try it again tomorrow.  I had put it on an SIT with Lounge Lizard, as I thought that is what you had done, but will try it with an audio track tomorrow. I am off to watch my son in a Harvest Festival tomorrow morning, so will try to set it up before I go, and see what I come home to. 

Thanks JB - yes - the lounge lizard was how I first encountered the issue. Since then I've realized it is completely independent - any audio track will do. Enjoy the Harvest Festival.

Cheers

I've had it on for 10 to 20 minutes and the channel output never changed from -56.5 db.

tlw
I can reproduce this as well. Very slow build-up of white noise that sounds just like the tape hiss we were all once so glad to get rid of :-)

What's so strange is that it is so obvious on some systems but maybe not on all systems. I guess that's what makes tracking them down such a challenge.