"It Must Be Nice" - Remix

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2012/06/06 19:59:02 (permalink)

"It Must Be Nice" - Remix

This is a remix of a song I first uploaded a little while ago. In this remix i have tried have taken on board all the advice and learning i have got from you guys so hopefully this is now improved.
 
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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/06 21:05:14 (permalink)
    I like this. In many ways, I think you could be satisfied with this mix. But to be a bit more "genre standard", again, I think the snare, shakers and blocks need to become more prevalent in the mix (cymbals and kick are fine). Listen to some similar reference material to hear what I mean. Vocals need a bit more life to them. Not sure if it needs some sparkle in the high end, or a tiny hint of reverb to give it a bit of depth. Maybe both. But some will like them as is, I am sure. There are a few areas where some minor pitch correction could be used.

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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/07 10:23:46 (permalink)
    Stuart, I've heard this song 3 times, now, and the mix is getting better each time.  But, as the mix improves, it brings out the nuances of the elements more clearly.  It has a very loose feel, kinda like an after hours club setting.  What it lacks in polish is made up with elan.  At this point, I can hear the female lead doubling her vocal here and there, or a simple harmony on the non verse parts.  But, if a live feel is what you're after, then this is as close as it gets.  Nice job.

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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/07 13:54:30 (permalink)
    Not heard this song before Stuart - I like it! Reminds me a little of Kirsty McColl, the vocals are really excellent. Bass is very nice, swooping tastefully. The lead guitar has something distracting about it - not sure if it's the DI sound or that it seems in it's own space rather than 'in the band'.

     
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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/07 19:16:49 (permalink)
    Thanks as always for your comments

    Shad
    Interesting your comment re high end sparkle to the vocals. I had in fact cut the vocal track by 4dB at around 10k to try and get rid of a brittleness i am getting on all the songs. I have now reduced the cut by half. And yes, i hadn't paid enough attention to the perc.

    Lynn
    Yes we wanted a light hearted, informal feel to this song. It was written by Chris and Laurette while on holiday in Spain and we wanted to keep the holiday feel.

    James
    Glad you like it. Yes i am pleased with the bass on the last edit i cut the lower frequencies on the bass track which allowed me to raise the level so as to hear it better. It is an upright acoustic bass and i wanted its tone and playing style to add to the charm.
    The lead acoustic is mic'd and not DI'd, but i can hear what you are saying. I always struggle to decide how far forward or back to place lead instruments or vocals.

    I have just updated the track mainly because i have just realised that i had missed off two guitar parts at the end. I have also tweaked the vocals and perc a bit based on the comments above.

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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/07 23:56:49 (permalink)
    Blocks and shakers.... bring em way up. I would like to hear a version with a bit of reverb on the vox (but I would experiment with a lot of different types) next to this version to see if what I feel is "missing" is that. I wonder if you are subconsciously keeping the blocks and shakers back so far because they have a natural reverb to them that makes the dry tone of the vocals stand out more? edit - btw, I tend to harp more on people who have music I admire and just need a few bumps to get em over the top to something spectacular (which this will be).
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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/08 05:05:02 (permalink)
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    ..... I would like to hear a version with a bit of reverb on the vox (but I would experiment with a lot of different types) next to this version to see if what I feel is "missing" is that.
     
    I am using some reverb on the vox. It's the 'Ambiance' plug-in by Magnus on a plate setting. I have kept the vox track and reverb separate from the reverb on the rest of the tracks which run through sends to an aux reverb bus. I have tried mixing with more vox reverb at but i dont think I like it so much. Maybe i should just do it and listen a few times to allow my ear to get used to it rather than just A-B'ing it. Same goes for the perc.
    I think some homework on reverb is my next task. So far i have just been "adding a bit.." rather than having any science or understanding behind it. I think i also need to spend some time listening to various plug-ins/settings to gain a knowledge of how they sound so in future i can pick one with more purpose.

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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/08 06:16:23 (permalink)
    Ok shad, here is a version with more vox reverb and the perc upped a bit. I upped the vox reverb soloing the vox track and it still sounded too much to me, but then i brought the other tracks back in and it sounded ok to my ear. I found this method better than adding while listening to the whole song. I also upped all the perc and the result made me smile which i always find a good guage of what is right.

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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/09 22:08:40 (permalink)
    Hey Stuart, I've listened to both versions of this track.  I don't know I liked version 1 of this track.  The verb sounds less real on the perc instruments now.

    Perhaps back the top-end off slighty on the percussion  if you are going to leave them so prominently.  Also on the verb, use the EQ to change the sound of the verb, try rolling of the hi frequencies to around 4khz and try between 80hz and  400hz in the lower range.  Just use your ears and you will hear what I mean.  This is how a real rooms reverb is suppose to behave.

    Also the vocals on the fisrt link, was the best Laurette has sounded in terms of that brittleness, we've been talking about.  This is because she is singing in a lower registar.

    But I really like this song, in particular the end, realyl cool.

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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/10 12:24:51 (permalink)
    It seems to lack a low end to me.  Maybe it's supposed to be that way.  I like the song and the performances.  There a  couple spots where she seems to get a bit "lazy", or maybe out of breath cause that's what I do (get lazy) so that's what I'll call it.  Her voice is so nice to listen to that I focus on her so I notice those things.  That's just my opinion.  I think this is the second song I've listened to from you all.  I really like it!

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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/11 12:47:38 (permalink)
    Stuart, I like this new track a lot. I would now bring the bottom end up a just a tad more and I think you are there. Really enjoying this tune. The perc makes me smile too. It makes the song IMO.

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    Re:"It Must Be Nice" - Remix 2012/06/14 13:18:49 (permalink)
    We all got together an did a bit of an edit job on this. As commented on above i was having trouble with a brittleness to the sound, and we decided to make more room for the vocal so it wasn’t competing as much with other high register instruments.

    So Chris handed me the hatchet and told me where to cut and i think the results are much better. I would hope that without a direct comparison you wouldn't be able to tell easily where things have been taken out, but the process has allowed me to brighten up the vocal without getting that nails/blackboard feeling (I hope). I think also some of the backing instruments are now maybe more noticeable when they are used. Note the question and answer ukulele in the end section.

    A good lesson i think for future tracks

    Have a listen

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